“Uhm…Makoto-sama? This direction is where the Demon Lord Castle is…” (Momo)
Momo pulled my sleeve scared.
The human farm is at the back of the Demon Lord Castle, and this giant white castle could be clearly seen even from afar.
The close aides of the Demon Lord are stationed in the vicinity of the Demon Lord Castle.
They are strong, and you would get eaten in the blink of an eye.
That’s why Momo and I had been taking distance from the Demon Lord Castle as we passed our days.
But according to what the boy said before…
The Heroes will be executed.
If Hero Abel is within those people, it is mission failed.
I think the chances of that being the case are high.
According to the Legend of Hero Abel, he gets stronger and stronger in the second half.
Riding the holy dragon that soars the skies, he would go around the whole world, defeat Demon Lords, and began to be called the Savior.
If the legends are true, there should be almost no one who can win against Abel who has become strong.
That’s why if they are planning on changing the past, they would aim for the time when Hero Abel hasn’t awakened yet.
The Demon Lord Bifrons that Abel is supposed to subjugate first.
The Heroes that are apparently going to be executed with this timing.
…It would have been dangerous if I hadn’t been told this.
“Momo, I will be going to the Demon Lord Castle to save the Heroes.” (Makoto)
“?!”
I have told her my objective, so she must have been expecting it to a certain extent, but even with that, the face of Momo stiffened greatly.
“H-How…will you do it…?” (Momo)
“I don’t know. First, I will gather information on site.” (Makoto)
“Do you have any comrades…?” (Momo)
“None. Not a single one.” (Makoto)
“No way… It is im—” (Momo)
Momo was probably about to say ‘it is impossible’, but she hung her head down and went silent.
“I…I…” (Momo)
Of course this would happen.
Momo’s magic proficiency is on the level that she can’t even use magic chantless.
She would be lacking in terms of battle power.
That said, even if I were to tell her to hide somewhere, there’s no safe place in the human farm.
“Want to come with me?” (Makoto)
“…Is that okay?” (Momo)
In the end, the only thing I could think of was to protect her in a place where I can reach.
Most of all, I myself am in a hurry here.
I want to know about the current state of the Heroes that are about to be executed.
“Let’s go.” (Makoto)
“Yes.” (Momo)
Momo and I held hands. I activated Stealth, and hurried to the Demon Lord Castle.
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“Hmm, can’t proceed any further than this, huh…” (Makoto)
“…It would be difficult.” (Momo)
Right now we are at a slightly elevated hill that’s close to the city near the castle.
The castle is surrounded by moats and walls.
However, rather than calling it walls to protect from outside forces, it is more like it is to delineate ‘from here on it is a special place’.
Also, most around that area are demons.
There’s also elves and dwarves that seem to be the slaves of the demons.
There’s also human slaves.
They would all be beautiful, have great physique, or easy to see characteristics.
(It would be difficult for me and Momo to blend with them…) (Makoto)
I held down my impatient emotions, and concentrated on gathering information with Farsight and Eavesdrop.
The demons spoke loudly and I could easily pick their conversations with Eavesdrop.
The result is that I learned some things.
– Bifrons is currently away.
– The execution will take place when Bifrons comes back.
– There’s 3 Heroes who will be executed (names unknown).
(The Demon Lord being away is the fortune within the misfortune, huh…) (Makoto)
I also heard something interesting.
The conversation of some demons.
“Hey, about the Heroes that were caught and are in the plaza, shouldn’t we execute them at once?”
“You…don’t you know? If you kill a Hero, the next Hero is born, you know? The Goddesses would give Skills to the new Hero after all. That’s why it is better to capture Heroes without killing them.”
“But the Great Demon Lord-sama said personally to ‘Kill the Heroes’, right?”
“Aah, we apparently have to definitely kill a certain Hero… We don’t know who it is, so Bifrons-sama has gone to the Great Demon Lord-sama to confirm.”
“Can’t we just bring the captured Heroes to the Great Demon Lord-sama…?”
“You…saying something like bringing the lowly Heroes to the Great Demon Lord-sama that rarely shows itself…? I won’t be responsible for whatever kind of punishment you would get from that, you know?”
“So scary, so scary. Well, not even we have seen the Great Demon Lord-sama after all.”
“Just listening to that voice makes me tremble.”
“Now that you mention it, it is better to capture the Heroes alive, right…?”
“Yeah, I told you that just now, right?”
“Then, why is the Black Knight Cain-sama killing the Heroes immediately?”
“You… There’s no way Cain-sama can make such rational decisions, right?”
“Ah, right. That personage has several screws loose after all.”
“Yeah… He is a personage that’s as scary as the Great Demon Lord-sama in a different sense.”
It was that kind of conversation.
(I see…)
So that’s the reason why they don’t execute them at once.
But, in the end, I don’t know if Abel is within that group.
Also, the former Apostle of Noah-sama has a bad reputation.
Wonder what kind of guy he is…
I kinda want to meet him, and I kind of don’t…
“Makoto-sama…how was it?” (Momo)
Momo was munching on a fruit that looks like an apple which we found while we were moving around.
Sorry, that’s the only food we got.
“I am thinking about going in tonight.” (Makoto)
“T-Tonight?!” (Momo)
“Yeah, it seems like everyone sleeps at night after all.” (Makoto)
We arrived close to the Demon Lord Castle yesterday.
I have been observing the Demon Lord Castle and the area near the castle for a whole day.
There’s few who walk around at night.
I will create mist with magic, and slip in that way.
There’s lookouts, but they lack any sense of danger and are slacking.
There’s most likely no one who would attack them.
I thought the Heroes had attacked the Demon Lord Castle, but they apparently didn’t even reach the city near the castle.
Will they even be able to win against the demon lord army like this…?
While feeling uneasy about this…I wait for night to come.
“Water Magic: [Mist].” (Makoto)
The sun and the moon couldn’t be seen because of the Pitch Black Clouds.
It is probably 3:00 a.m.
I slowly approach the city of the demons while using Stealth.
If Furiae-san were here, I could use the Sleep Curse.
Well, can’t ask for what’s not here.
We would get caught by the gatekeeper if we were to pass through the gate, so we go over the moat and the walls.
I create a path in the air with water magic, and move by using Surface Walk.
I have been holding the hand of Momo the whole time.
Her face is stiffened from the tension.
(I should have taught her the Calm Skill.) (Makoto)
A point I should reflect on next time.
While I was thinking that, we successfully infiltrated the city.
At the center of the city, there’s the Demon Lord Castle that could be seen even through the mist.
I heard that the execution of the Heroes will be at the front of the Demon Lord Castle.
There’s magic street lights illuminating the streets of the demon city.
Momo and I walked through the backstreets as much as possible.
Detection showed way too many enemies, so I got scared and stopped using it.
I relied only on the danger alert function as I aimed for the center of the city.
Is this how it feels for a terrorist when they infiltrate an enemy camp?
There were demons walking around, but I managed to deal with it with the thick mist and Stealth. We safely arrived at the place that seemed like the plaza.
{Momo…are you okay?} (Makoto)
{Y-Yes…I am scared though.} (Momo)
We hid in the shadow of a building and spoke in a low volume as we checked the state of the plaza.
Momo held my hand tightly, and I did the same.
There’s around…10 monsters as lookouts.
They are gargoyles.
How problematic.
I see a number of cages in the center of the plaza.
I could see people inside of them.
(What should I do…?) (Makoto)
The gargoyles were sitting on the big pillars that are here and there at the plaza.
They have a view of the whole plaza, and it looks hard to do a surprise attack on them.
Hmm, I want to act carefully, but I don’t want to stay long.
What should I do…?
“[Eavesdrop].” (Makoto)
The gargoyles were conversing, so I listened in.
“Hey, the mist today is dense.”
“Yeah, what a displeasing day. My body is getting all damp and it feels bad.”
“Aah, I want to dry my body with an open-fire or something…”
“Totally agree. Want to take a short break?”
“But we will get scolded for that, you know?”
“We are simply gonna be drying up on an open-fire for a short hour. It would clear our minds and it would allow us to concentrate more in our watch.”
…Gargoyles are monsters with will.
So they hate moisture, huh.
“[Mist].” (Makoto)
For now, I will do more of what my enemy hates.
“Ugh! The mist got denser.”
“I can’t take this anymore! I will take a break!”
“Ah! That’s not fair! I want to go too!”
“Oi! Leave someone at the very least!”
“Then you stay, leader!”
“Don’t joke around! I am your superior here!”
The gargoyles left.
It seems they left at least one, but if I take a wide turn, I could arrive at the cage without being noticed.
The gargoyle that fell behind was mumbling complaints and not concentrating on his watch at all.
They are neglecting their job to the extreme, but that’s fortunate for me.
I move slowly through the dense mist with Stealth and approach the cage.
Inside the cage there’s a man who was shackled in both arms and legs, and his body was tied up with chains.
He looked like he was sleeping, but when I got close, he soon woke up.
The man directed wary eyes at me.
“You…are a human?”
The man made a dubious expression.
“I have come to save you.” (Makoto)
“?!”
I said this straight, and the man opened his eyes wide.
“That would help a lot…but this cage is something that the confidant of the Demon Lord, Shuri, created with her darkness magic. It would be difficult to open—”
I didn’t wait for him to finish speaking and take out the dagger of Noah from my waist.
*Clink*
The blade of the dagger made a short sound, and the bars were severed.
“Huh?”
I ignore the surprised man, enter the cage, and cut off the chains and shackles.
I try to grab them so that they won’t make a sound, but it was so heavy I was on the verge of dropping them, but Momo supported me.
“Are you okay, Makoto-sama?” (Momo)
“You saved me there, Momo.” (Makoto)
“N-No problem…” (Momo)
Looks like Momo has more strength than me.
This is sad.
“You…just who in the world…”
I say to the dumbfounded man.
“My name’s Makoto. I have come under the oracle of Althena-sama and have come to save you Heroes. You are a Hero, right?” (Makoto)
I asked.
Hearing this, his face turned serious.
“I am the Earth Hero, Volkh. Thanks, you saved me there. I have comrades in the other cages. Please save them too.” (Volkh)
It wasn’t Abel.
But there’s others.
What about here?
“Got it. Are your other comrades Heroes?” (Makoto)
“Yeah, that’s right… The ones captured over there are the Wood Hero Julietta, and the Lightning Hero Abel.”
“?!”
I pumped my fist inside my mind.
I have successfully made contact with Savior Abel.
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Thanks for the chapter!
Did the author forgot about philosopher’s stone?
So apparently the current Abel is weak to the point that he lost his first demon lord battle. Then we have MC who is stronger than him who is most likely gonna defeat Bifrons, especially in an era with an abundant amount of spirits. And obviously, MC will get stronger through this arc.
So here’s the fun part; assuming that what I said was true, wouldn’t that mean that MC will overshadow Abel in accomplishments? Remember, MC went back to the past to save Abel from getting rewritten in history, with the goddesses giving him the discretion of changing history if necessary.
So what if MC decides to say ‘fuck it’ and merks all the demon lords and demon queen? Abel would technically still be alive – he wouldn’t be overwritten in history, but he would be overshadowed by MC.
People in the future would be calling him “Saviour Makoto”. It’ll also be hilarious if the statue in Highland would change into the statue of MC with some butterfly effect magic fuckery.
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super dense MC to not noticing Momo will be made a vampire by Bifrons because of him and turned into the Great Sage
ahh nevermind my previous speculation then, turns out makoto isn’t abel after all
Lightning hero? Wasn’t he the light hero?
Was supposed to have both elements
LOL~ So Momo (a 10-12 year old girl) is VERY PALE and BEAUTIFUL and STRONGER than Makoto here, but still no flags are raised in Mr Gamer Brain’s head yet? OKaayy~ Let’s go with that then. ฅ(ﾐᗜᆽᗜﾐ)∫
To be fair, even the kids at the Highland orphanage were magically/physically stronger than the MC.
Oh the five hero?
Wow that was fast… Really fast
I thought Abel was the sun hero?
Dun dun duuun…
He had Light and Lightning right? I am sure I remember them saying that, guess this one haven’t awoken both
Three years late but, in case new readers are wondering, he had light and lightning. That's why both Geralt and Ryosuke were said to have the same skill as Savior Abel
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saviour abel was both the lightening hero and the light hero right?
Naisu. First objective, achieved.
But…riding a dragon? I guess there are dragon riders then? I seem to remember only Pegasus, but even dragons can be tamed, huh…Well, either that or it’s an artificial water one.
Gehehe…I didn’t think about this, but lightning and water have good combat compatibility. Time to see what kinda guy Abel really is. Will he resemble Takki? Wonder if we’re gonna bring back a disappointing reality to the present day.
…You know, Momo registered in my mind as resembling O-Tama even before the apple, but now, even more so.
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So, Makoto =/= Abel. Perfect. Now Anna can totally fall in love with him
Here’s another theory for the timeline:
There’s an original timeline, but the “present” where Makoto came from is the one whose past has been altered by time travel due to the effect of [RPG Player]. It’s predestined.
I think makoto will return to 1000y later with time spirit. from what happened when noah use it to come back the past second, i think its affect the individual body (like forcefully rewind the action that happened in normal speed? Maybe), but this time, makoto need to use it to the future, so i think time spirit will still just affect individual body, froze the time of that body (the lifespan and growth) and need to wait 1000y inside the coffin great sage have (its pretty sus that great sage didnt answer makoto question straight away though)
Maybe…
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You could say he’s been disABELed…I’ll leave now
I want a calm skill in my life…
Momo being stronger than Makoto is too sad haha. And poor her for going to demon castle without any powerful magic and calm skill as a little girl.
I wonder if there are equipments with stat boosts. An accessory with strenght and stamina boosts would help Makoto a lot
Cain is probably like mentioned in early chapters crazy because Noah showed herself directly to him. Maybe Makoto could kill him and become Noah’s apostle 1k years ago too?
Thanks for the chapter!
My feelings for this arc was to splurge reading 50 chapters at a time.
Thats how good this arc is….
Also, Lightning Hero Abel.????
Why not light?
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Thanks for the chapter! ^^
Makoto will probably need to runaway in a flashy fashion being discovered in the the last second. x)
And I can’t help imagining Makoto becoming the magicc trainer of the heroes, making them into monsters half crazed because of his training regime! XD
Thanks!
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Quest Chain: The Otherworld
Quest: Another Time
You have found the Lightning Hero Abel in the past before his execution. Will you save him before it’s too late?
Back to the future references? Travel back in time to prevent something from changing the past. Where have I seen this before? Not having seen or read any spoilers, I believe Makoto does the dirty work and Abel collects his credits. Doesn’t Makoto already have the light blessing from Althena and a blessing from Ira? Didn’t understand why Eir didn’t give him one too. I STILL HATE CLIFFS! Thanks for the chapter, Reigokai.
I think the only thing Eir could have given him is Apprentice Water Magic which he already has.
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So Abel actually exists, eh? Then, Makoto’s actions are later attributed to Abel in the legends. I don’t trust the legends at all. Legends exist to be made up and furnished over time.
But wait, I thought Cain killed all the heroes except Abel? Why is the Earth and Wood hero still alive?
I already miss Furiae and the other girls. Momo is not enough to fill the void left by the main heroines. We need someone clumsy, airheaded like MC, easy to bully, someone like Ira. Makoto find her oracle sooooon.
Momo Makoto’s first disciple. I still think she’s Great Sage.
Thanks for the chapter!! Makoto keep surprising people even in the past LOL
Ah, so abel not makoto it’s self. So, it will be makoto actually who defeat the demon lord. But in present future, it’s history got fix by ira. So the one who kill the demon lord is the hero abel.
I think this theory is the right, maybe?
😁 😁 😁
so our theory about Makoto = Abel, Failed..
so is his existence Hidden or they entered new timeline(in previous no Makoto Interference but in this one Makoto interfere).
I wonder how much it will affect the future later, hopefully they still got summoned later.
Somehow, i think we should stop the timeline talk. Things will only become complicated. Let’s just assume they’re using the same timeline. I’m too tired from all the thinking from Arknights already. CC blade be like:”learing how to count with Faust.”
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Lots of new theories being tossed around now with the most common seeming to be Makoto doing the heavy lifting and having his achievements shoved onto Abel, but I somehow feel like it won’t be that simple or obvious. Now that I think about it isn’t Makoto likely to go deal with past moon Oracle and Cain in some way resulting in improved standing for them back in the future? I feel like hes gonna leave alot of stuff for Ira to deal with and is 100% gonna get closer to her as she’s the only one from his time to talk with, other then who ever the demons sent back. I wonder if its someone we know.
currently we still not sure about is Makoto Have been there in past. is he actually a new existence.
afterall if Makoto been really in past, he will definitely stop Cain from going berserk and cause trouble to Noah.
it just like Chrono trigger so many possibilities
>“Yeah, that’s right… The ones captured over there are the Wood Hero Julietta, and the Lightning Hero Abel.”
And just like that, a popular theory got murdered.
Thanks for the chapter.
Does anyone remember the 3 great sages? White Great sage, crimson witch & ‘The Oz’, i think Makoto is the Oz since doesn’t seem to have appeared in the war against the demon lord
The Great White Sage is the vampire loli we know and the Crimson Witch Lucy’s mother if I remember correctly. But I don’t remember when was mentioned The Oz, what else was mentioned about him in the past chapters?
It was mentioned, but only once, and one line alone
I forgot where it is, around wood country arc maybe
My initial theory is that we’ll get to meet them as extra story, along with Naia’s world travel path, and meeting with Lucy’s father
Lightning Hero Abel. Geralt being the next savior.
Thanks for the chapters! Things are getting busy so I can’t read them on the same day as they’re released, but I finally got a chance to sit down and read the ones I missed. I gotta say I’m loving the current pace.
I wonder if Momo becomes someone significant in the future, and also although I wasn’t expecting it until the time travel was hinted at, I can’t wait to see how Abel’s character unfolds!
Three heroes, and considering they were captured by Setekh, even if they brought non-hero help they can be written off.
Breaking in with unusual method and brazenly when they’re not expecting a break in. This would again seem like rushing into danger, but the reasoning is sound. It’s pretty hurried, but Makoto is racing against time here.
Either gargoyles are sentient by default or they’re just smarter. Considering the monsters about to eat Momo earlier also conversed, it can go either way.
Makoto’s knife is overkill as always. It’s made by Shuri? Well, it’s only made by Shuri, might as well be air for the dagger.
So the Wood Hero is here, and it’s not Johnny. I remember Johnny was called a Spring Log Hero, does that mean he’s actually Spring Log’s first National Hero (probably also its founder) rather than having a Hero skill? Also, does anyone remember who the Earth Goddess is? Has she ever been mentioned at all? I seriously can’t remember at all. Or rather, I’m fairly sure neither the Earth Goddess nor her country has ever gotten any extended mentioned, only in passing about Fujiwara buying metals from the country to sell to the Fire Country. Which does make me wonder if the goddess is maybe a patron of the dwarves or something. Are there even dwarves here?
So by now, Makoto has already made contact with agents of the goddesses of the four classic elements. That seems like a checkpoint.
> Three heroes, and considering they were captured by Setekh, even if they brought non-hero help they can be written off.
That’s kind of harsh. Remember that Setekh’s eyes instantly turned Makoto to stone and it took 3 days for Makoto to recover from it even with Furie’s anti-curse skills.
I’ve actually been wondering about how Makoto is going to deal with Setekh.
I mean, you said it was harsh but you basically agree with me so…?
It’s like this : the heroes were spared, and likely un-petrified because of concerns mentioned by the monsters’ conversation. There’d be no such consideration for the non-hero help assuming they brought any, they’d just be killed immediately if not just forgotten as a collection of eerily life-like statue. Thus, they can be written off, no saving them from that without further endangering the heroes and thus the mission, if they can be saved at all. And it’s not like we know they actually brought any help or not.
As for Setekh, Makoto already had a way to deal with him since Spring Log. Under a heavy mist, the effects of Setekh’s eyes can be suppressed since it’s apparently based on line of sight. Makoto only got petrified later because he didn’t realize Noah’s God Armor was wearing while talking with Setekh. Also, it took Furiae something like a week IIRC. Mostly thanks to Makoto’s zero RES.
Johnny is not a hero probably if he’s a spirit user. To be a hero he would have to be a believer of the goddesses which the spirit do not like. When Eir first descended on Sophia, Makoto said all the water spirits were subdued and silenced.
Per chapter 83, copy pasted :
> “You…don’t you know the Spring Log Hero, Johnny Walker? It is one of the comrades of Abel, you know.”
Read that again, Johnny is called Spring Log Hero. Later on Maximilian was called Wind Tree Hero so I was considering the possibility that Johnny was a national hero like Makoto was, maybe retroactively once Spring Log was established as a nation. This chapter simply gives a confirmation that it’s a different thing from Wind Tree Hero.
And there’s never anything said about how hero skills are exclusive with spirit use, whether for or against. The case you mentioned has nothing to do with Sophia as an oracle and everything to do with Eir -you know, the literal goddess of water- descending. The only other case we’ve seen of spirits going hush was Alex, and that’s because he’s a Demigod descended from Jupiter, not because of him being a Hero.
thanks for the chapter.
step 1 :clear !
It’s cool that Makoto is getting to use his goblin hunting guerilla ninjitsu instead of just flash freezing everything in his path. It’s also interesting that he’s made contact with heroes who were killed in the original timeline. Makoto is going to make Ira’s job so hard.
When I read Lightning Hero Abel, I sort of imagined an older version of die-hard Geralt from the future lol.
Thank you very much for the chapter.
So that partially explains how Abel got captured. Apart from Setekh being super strong and having petrification eyes, it seems that the enemy have already begun to tamper with history by informing Iblis to capture Abel before he has awakened the Light Hero skill. To remind those who don’t know, Abel had both the Lightning and Light Hero skills which is why Geralt was originally supposed to marry Noel.
Thanks for the chapter 😀
Maybe he doesn’t know he the Light Hero yet cause of the clouds.
Time for a trip on a water Phoenix above the cloud layer!
This could also be a good opportunity for Makoto to grind some levels with his Light Magic, maybe making a flashbang go off in front of Abel is all it takes to awaken him…?
Thanks for the chapter! :DDDD
New theory after reading this chapter and some theory in the comments
Key idea:
Makoto and Abel are diffrent people, all of makoto’s acheivement was pushed to abel when makoto returns to the present.
Geralt is the desendent of the hero abel as abel actually stayed in the past.
Momo will need to consume brifons magic stone to live at some point making her a monster(great sage). As makoto still holds this item in his person.
The light hero skill of abel in story is makoto using light spirit magic.
Well like always this is just a rambling of an insane person. and should just be ignored
Makoto and Abel being different people is already confirmed here. Volkh just mentioned Abel by name, and unlike the goddesses, there’s no reason to assume he’s in on some divine charade. And since Makoto will likely be best served by being written out of history completely, the things he did has to be attributed to someone, why not Abel?
I think ORIGINALLY there was no Makoto in the past. Makoto is here to keep things “close enough” for Ira to fix, and Abel not dying is critical to that. That also means the way things are playing out now – such with Abel having been captured – is not how things originally played out.
I could be wrong, but consider this:
The Statue of Abel was Chalk (white) when Makoto first saw it.
The Statue becomes Green like The Statue of Liberty (possibly copper) when he returned.
The Statue is Ashen colored, as “Savor Abel” became “Hero Abel”, right as the gods finally noticed what was happening.
Seems to me time was already shifting bit by bit, earlier in the story. Changes spreading like ripples in a pond. The only one that noticed differences – aka didn’t have his memory altered – was Makoto. Was that because of his (to be) time travel – his threads of fate stretching to the past? RPG Player? A combination? The change in the statues could have some symbolic meaning as well.
There are a few other factors I think I’ve noticed but I don’t think I should bring them up yet, as to not confirm/deny anything not yet translated. But what I’ve said is still just my theory. The statues changing are past-chapter fact, but my interpretation is theory and could be wrong.
But if my theory is correct, I think it SHOULD have been noticed much sooner by Ira… except she was staying descended in the moral plane. That change in perspective increased her ability to read the future there, but maybe blinded her to what was going on. That’s just more theory, but poor Ira is certainly good at screwing up in epic fashion…
No, Abel still has a role you know. A demon lord can only be wounded by a holy sword. The fight with biffrons already proved that… which they solve it using makoto’s knife. Anyone can prove abel’s usefulness please? If this theory continues, i might start thinking Abel is useless.
Thanks for the chapter…
So Makoto is actually neither of the historical characters. I don’t really know whether this development is less fun or not…
Either? Were the choices Abel or Cain? IMO Cain has never been likely. Makoto isn’t strong enough to even wield a sword, much less wield a sword and wear a full set of armor. Actually doing that and then going around killing heroes with said sword? Even less likely, he can’t even do physical fighting properly. About the only commonality they share is being Noah’s apostle. I always wondered about people who seem to think that Makoto’s dagger is the same thing as Cain’s sword. A dagger is not a sword, they’re similar only in the sense that they were made from the same material, fragments of The Scythe.
I personally like this development. I want to see how the author can make a history with Makoto’s intervention be different enough from the proper history while still similar enough that historical recording errors are understandable.
Well, I never actually thought that Makoto could be Cain. I was not in any of “Makoto can be ***” camps. I’ve just been thinking things like “Could have been fun, though”.
The message above is a mistake of mine, now that I think about it. The proper construction to use would be “is not one of”, probably, since I didn’t mean to restrict the statement to just two options. English isn’t my mother language, you see. So yeah, sorry.
Well, each and every theory of Reigo-san’s respectable commentors (Is that even a word?) still has its potential, so let’s keep the discussions going. I find them fun to read too, though not as much as the quality translations themselves.
P. S. I don’t have the slightest idea on why I wrote all this. (._.)
I probably have an idea as to why you wrote all that : you enjoy the story and thus enjoy discussions related to it.
I’d say this, all the theorycrafting of “Maybe Makoto is X” was pretty fun. Certainly the theories themselves tend to have holes, some big enough to drive a semi through. But the fact that people come up with them at all means they like the story enough to get themselves thinking. But getting the theories disproved by the story as we find out what actually happens is pretty much just as fun to me personally.
Agreed.
Pretty sure Makoto is gonna be the origin of the Divine Dragon in the story, too suspicious that we hadn’t heard anything about a dragon until now.
Divine Dragon? What’s this?
Makoto: I’ve had Momo for a day, but if anything happened to her I’d kill everyone and then myself.
Wait, lightning hero Abel? Gera-yan?
Abel of course, he’s a double hero.
Just in time to save them.
And now Makoto gets to abuse the Goddesses’ names for the sake of the future.
Althena is really a useful name. It can convince most people. It can even be used to blackmail a certain Ponkotsu Goddess.
And he’s not even lying. He really was given an oracle by Althena. And notwithstanding the specifics, all the things he’s been doing are done because of said oracle. So “because Althena’s oracle” becomes a super convenient, super convincing excuse.
So julietta is women or man?
Cain is it? I feel like I’ve read somewhere in the earlier chapters. . .
can anyone point me to which chapter he was mentioned before?
Ok, since we all agree anyway that Momo is the great sage, I just thought of something: what if she isn’t turned into a vampire by something but willingly became one just so she could last 1000 years and meet Makoto again?
Also when did Abel get called the light hero again? The wood hero said lighting hero abel here so….
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Pretty sure Momo is the great sage since once before this Princess Noel have almost said the real name of Great Sage in front of Makoto ( I don’t remember which chapter)
Abel have 2 hero skills: Light Hero (the one Sakurai has) and Lightning Hero (the one Geralt has)
That’s why before isekai with Makoto & co, Geralt is said to be the reincarnation of the hero Abel
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Now a question, is Abel really The Savior Abel or he is just a normal Hero that after the intervention of Makoto in the past was make famous so that it could be hidden the existence of Makoto?
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hmmm that the abel was called “lightning hero” is sus… and that he should awakend his powers about time that makoto comes in past is sus too… it more and more seems to me that abel isnt the savior everyone thinks of him, but that all the fame was pushed onto him by ira “fixing” the past and the real savior is makoto and goddesses wont remember it cause of some time “law” that makes em unable remember things from past that didnt happen yet cause the person didnt go back to past yet
The original skill of Abel is lightning hero, not light, thats like the evolution after some clouds get swept aside.
the timing is too suspicious… he suddenly gets awakened after makoto gets sent back in time… if he was op before and just great demon king found out how to deal with him then I wont be doubting it but now Im… its simply too sus especially that makoto got light magic and abel is missing it
That’s the exact point, the devils told the demon king to smite Abel at the starting line. And the destiny goddess sent him back to the moment where he can avoid it.
It would be stupid even by Ira standards to not send him at a good place in time.
no you dont understand what I mean… even when he met biffrons in early chapters in his actual time he recognized makoto which became clear when they returned in time, also that little girl by side of makoto is great sage I think… I simply think that abel was never anyone special and just got all fame pushed onto him by ira “fixing” the past cause even the described power of light fits makoto’s spirit control more than sakurai’s light skills… so abel can be both light and lightning hero later on but he wouldnt be op… he would simply be pawn used by ira to fix past … or before I also thought that makoto wont be able to save him and instead would use the book he has to “repeat” all the feats but I doubt that author would do something so predictable
Sadly I was spoiled and won’t spoil you about that…
fuck rip you buddy
I also agree with this as things are starting to fall into place. This would also make sense as to why Iblis was so surprised/hostile temporarily towards Makoto when they first encountered each other. I am getting the feeling that Makoto was the one who eventually defeated Iblis which is why he recognized Makoto in the future even though it was just a brief moment.
During that time, in re-reading the story, Great Sage was also asking Makoto whether Iblis said something strange to him.
Wrong Demon Lord, Makoto talked to Bifrons the Immortal King, so far Iblis is just a nightmare inducing happy little kid’s voice, that makes monsters evolve.
My guess is that Makoto is the dragon in the story, he probably clears the clouds, and flies Abel from demon lord to demon lord…since he knows Althena’s preferences, he probably fixes up the hero’s looks too.
I love your dragon theory, and with how attuned with water Makoto is, it is a fitting title and comparison for him, dragons being the incarnation of elements. Makoto the Holy Dragon send by the Goddesses to save and guide the heroes! x)
ye that might also be possibility
Ehh, why though? I mean, an Eastern dragon and a western dragon should be quite diferent right? Also, turning into a dragon might be tiring,so i think makoto won’t turn into a dragon. That dragon might actually exist.
He doesn’t need to turn into a dragon, he just needs to create one, like the pheonix he flew into battle to save Sakurai, or the rage of dragons he covered the skies with in his fights against Alexander and Geralt.
Do that and he might die you know. I admit there maybe less chance of it, turning into a spirit king is still dangerous right now.
Sorry you’re right, I meant Bifrons. I keep getting the name between immortal king bifrons and great demon lord iblis mixed up.
There’s also elves and dwarves that seem to be the slaves of the demons.
Even though he didn’t talk to them, Makoto finally saw some dwarves after 226 chapters !
Momo was munching on a fruit that looks like an apple which we found while we were moving around.
How cute !
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Bro, nice timing with apple 😂
do you have appropriate gif and images for every conversation? just asking
No, I just read the chapter and I search if there was a passage that would be interesting to illustrate. After that, I pick an image/gif about it on google images.
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Lightning hero?
Abel had both the light and lightning hero skills that’s why Geralt was engaged to Noel before I think
Lightning Hero Abel? Interesting. I wonder if he just doesn’t have the Light Hero skill yet. If that’s the case, he’s basically the same (skillwise) as Geralt. Considering Makoto said he only got stupidly strong halfway through the story, it makes sense.
If we see the conversation between Althena and Noah before, the Light Hero was supposed to be Cain because Althena gave the Light Skill to Cain based on his looks (one of Althena’s flaw, she can be easily deceived with a good-looking man). But then, somehow Noah snatched him and turned him into a mad Apostle who mercilessly killed many heroes in Dark Era.
Now, seeing how rare the Light Skill (Althena can only produce it once per 1000 years), I wonder, how Abel become the Light Hero, meanwhile in this chapter it said Abel is a Lightning Hero?
Ah, I believe you’ve made a mistake here.
The one Noah snatched was not Cain, but another person – also Althena’s crush. It clearly said so.
And we don’t even know if the person in in the Mortal Realms or Immortal Realms.
Sorry, mistake here.
“… And we don’t even know if the person IS in the Mortal Realms or Immortal Realms.”
Wait what? How? Where was it mentioned that it was supposed to be Cain’s? The Light Hero of legends has always been Abel, and it was mentioned too that he has both Lightning Hero and Light Hero. There was mention that Althena’s first love fell for Noah, but there was never anything more specific mentioned about that. Cain is indeed called a hero, but not Light Hero, rather Crazed Hero (though I prefer Mad Hero myself), but there was never any mention of him actually having any hero skill, ever.
It wasn’t Cain but someone from the god realm.
@Deforestation
Noah didn’t even snatch him. Basically like you have a crush on someone, but she actually likes your friend. That’s it. She was bro before hoe up to she chose to side with the demon 1000 years ago. I guess they reconcile again now.
The author release about one chapter a week I think
There’s a kind guy(devil) in the past chapters who commented on links to the raws, as expected I was tempted by it. Go read alll the way. It was freaking amazing plot, anyway maybe I should thank you or hate you? Cause some my unanswered questions are answered . I’ll just thank you(I hate you) cause I have to painfully wait for the author to release a chapter, when the plot in climax. It’s pretty painful.
It is a cliff we all have to fall in eventually my friend.
yes lets just all hold hands and jump in ourselves without being pushed in
The fact that the author went a full week empty hurts my soul. They apparently “miscalculated the deadline.” And it was a really sheer cliff too.
Just don’t spoil it for the rest of us.
Don’t worry I’ll just keep quiet in this parts until Reigokai catch up to raws.
How many chapters are there before the gates of hell are open?
Curent raws are to chapter 275.
So around 50 chapters, at a low estimate of 3 per week thats 17 weeks or 4 months…
Depending of how much the author posts maybe 4 months until we are up to date?
Author posts on average once a week, except now in which they promise the next at 10th of Feb, nearly two weeks after the last one because they “miscalculated the deadline.” Going with the lowball estimate of 3 chapters a week by Reigokai, it’d be around 6 more months, closing in at a rate of 2 chapters a week.
Chapter 275 not included 2 side stories. So yeah, around that long till we catch up.
Yeah, I fall into the pit long ago, but here we are, waiting for the english release of the chapters, cus’ nothing like suffering with more people.
Alas, dear god in the heavens, plz, i want update in japanese to be more fast.
better remember all of your impressions of that particular chapter when reading so we can play discussions while pretending to forget the plot when the translation arrives here.
it’s fun.
be careful to not accidentally spoiling people though.
Thanks for the chapter!
Oh there we are, Makoto finally is going to meet Abel! I want to know the first impression of Abel. Well, looking at how history is changed already, i don’t think it will be the same as what the book says (it’s always like that anyway, even in real world le)
The picture of Momo munching an Apple-like fruit bothering me. I want to see her face xD It definitely would looks adorable. Makoto and Momo really made some advancement. Oh well, no matter the place, Makoto you seems to always attract some opposite gender’s attention unconciously huh, clearly Noah-sama made the best suited nickname “Airheaded Gigolo” to you ahahah
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Thanks for the chapter!
Makoto feels like a terrorist now? In a sense, he is one except against demons.
Brief description about Ibliss is quite scary. Just his voice even scares his minions. The past is definitely being interfered with too. I’m just wondering what they did. Did they send another time traveller?
We can also speculate on what happened now to Abel. He still hasn’t awakened yet and probably doesn’t possess the Light Hero skill yet based on his title. However an earth hero huh? I wonder if this was the one who owned Sa-san’s piko piko hammer? And the wind hero sounds like a woman too. Probably an archer.
What if Iblis has a loli voice…
Don’t remember if it specified loli or shota (knowing Makoto it’s gonna be another loli), but he did say that it was some kid’s voice when Isaac used the bell to turn the giant in Rozes into a taboo monster.
well, most of Wind Hero will remind people of Archer.. rarely a swordman who use windslash or Quickdraw that willl shoot it.
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Is this it?
Nvm it isnt
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Thank you very much for the chapter