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“You decide. Save the world, or destroy it…” (Noah)
The smile of Noah-sama even felt cruel.
My gaze wandered.
I thought for sure that the choices in RPG Player would show up, but…
Nothing is coming out.
I instead confirm the expressions of my comrades with Perspective Change.
Lucy was in a bad mood.
Sa-san was in tears.
Princess Sofia had a calm expression as if she were enduring something.
Furiae-san was making a face like that of an abandoned cat…
My resolve shook.
I was going to say something, but stopped it.
I feel like I would get affected if they were to try to stop me.
I faced Noah-sama again.
“Noah-sama.” (Makoto)
“What, Makoto?” (Noah)
“…I will go 1,000 years into the past. I will go save Savior Abel, okay?” (Makoto)
When I answered, I could hear everyone in the church sigh.
When I looked, I could see Althena-sama also make a relieved face.
“Is that okay? You won’t be able to meet your friends again, you know?” (Noah)
“Please don’t throw cold water on the resolve of someone.” (Makoto)
I showed a wry smile, turned to my friends, and went down the platform.
“Sorry, everyone. I will be going.” (Makoto)
“Takatsuki-kun…I don’t want this…” (Aya)
Sa-san grabbed my arm and sunk her face on my chest.
“I will go with you too… I want to go together with Takatsuki-kun, Goddess-sama…” (Aya)
“Sasaki Aya, you are way too strong… If we were to send you 1,000 years into the past, the Devils will notice it… You can’t go together with Takatsuki Makoto…” (Ira)
“Uuh…no way…” (Aya)
I could only hug the shoulders of Sa-san.
Someone approached from the back.
“Hero Makoto…saving the Savior-sama is an honorable task. I wish you good luck—” (Sofia)
“Sofia…” (Makoto)
Princess Sofia’s words got stuck in the middle.
“Sorry, even though you should be the one in pain here…” (Sofia)
“…”
Princess Sofia hung her head down.
What should I say here…?
“Geez, pushing yourself here. This girl…”
“Eir-sama?!” (Sofia)
Eir-sama suddenly appeared and hugged Princess Sofia from the back.
“When did you descent?” (Sofia)
“Hmm, I was summoned together with Noah when I was at the Deep Sea Temple.” (Eir)
“That easily?” (Makoto)
Oi oi, is that okay?
I looked at Althena-sama and she was scratching her cheek.
Aah, so she didn’t plan that either, huh.
“Yes, Sofia-chan. It is okay to cry when you are sad, okay?” (Eir)
“…Yes.” (Sofia)
It should be okay to leave Princess Sofia to Eir-sama.
My eyes made contact with Furiae-san at the back.
Her elegant expression was gone and she was flustered.
“U-Uhm…My Knight…” (Furiae)
“Princess, sorry…that I won’t be able to stay by your side despite being your Guardian Knight.” (Makoto)
“This isn’t about me! Are you really okay…? You will have to go all on your own 1,000 years into the past. That’s way too horrible…” (Furiae)
Furiae-san ran to me and grabbed my hand.
She was trembling.
“There doesn’t seem to be any other choice after all.” (Makoto)
“But…even though you have just come back to life not that long ago…why…do you have to face such…” (Furiae)
“Well, it can’t be helped.” (Makoto)
“You are always saying things so lightly…” (Furiae)
“Do your best founding your nation, Princess.” (Makoto)
“…Yeah.” (Furiae)
My resolve must have transmitted, Furiae-san let go powerlessly.
For last, I turn to where the red haired elf girl that has been silent for a while now is.
“Lucy, uhm…” (Makoto)
I was about to say ‘I am sorry, I won’t be able to adventure with you anymore’, but my words were cut off.
“Makoto!” (Lucy)
Lucy crossed her arms and glared at me.
The first comrade I got when coming to this world.
The girl I was acquainted with the longest in this world.
I couldn’t keep my promise of challenging the Deep Sea Temple together…
“Promise me.” (Lucy)
“Promise?” (Makoto)
“Come back! Save Hero Abel, and once you defeat the Great Demon Lord, come back to us!” (Lucy)
She points straight at me and says strongly.
“Lucy…” (Makoto)
I really want to come back, but Ira-sama has been explaining to me that I can’t return for a while now.
“Lucy J Walker…I have said this many times already, but there’s no method for Takatsuki Makoto to return to the prese—” (Ira)
“Shut up! Airheaded Goddess!” (Lucy)
“Wa?!” (Ira)
Lucy kicks away the words of Ira-sama.
“Makoto! DEFINITELY come back! Promise!” (Lucy)
As if reacting to the words of Lucy, letters floated in front of me.
Oh?
[Will you promise Lucy?]
Yes
No
(A choice here, huh…) (Makoto)
Even though there was no reaction when Noah-sama asked me.
It is not about going or not 1,000 years into the past, but whether I return or not, huh…
“M-My Knight…” (Furiae)
Furiae-san was stepping back as if she were scared.
“Takatsuki Makoto?! T-That’s—mgh!” (Ira)
“Alright, Ira, you shouldn’t get in the way of his tearful farewell with his comrades, okay?” (Noah)
Noah-sama covered the mouth of Ira-sama who was about to say something.
It seems like these two can see the choices.
But I must answer Lucy first.
“Lucy.” (Makoto)
I look at the burning red eyes of Lucy.
And then, I glanced at the choices RPG Player gave me.
Now that I think about it, choices showed several times when Lucy became my party member, right?
At that time, I couldn’t choose No in the end.
It was a forced party member route.
I remembered that and laughed a bit.
I am sure I can’t choose No here either.
“What?” (Lucy)
She glared suspiciously at my laugh.
I take a step towards Lucy.
“I promise you. I definitely will return.” (Makoto)
I choose [Yes] to the question of RPG Player.
“Hmph, definitely, okay? I won’t forgive you if you break your promise!” (Lucy)
Lucy faced the other way with a ‘pui!’ while still having her arms crossed.
I promised, so I have to keep it.
Now then, my farewells to my comrades are done.
What’s left is…
“Makoto-sama…” (Noel)
“Takatsuki-kun…” (Sakurai)
Princess Noel had a sad face, and Sakurai-kun on the verge of tears called my name.
…Oi oi, you are the Light Hero that will defeat the Great Demon Lord, right?
I will do my best in the past, so I leave the present to you, Sakurai-kun.
“I’ll be going. Take care of Sakurai-kun, okay, Princess Noel?” (Makoto)
I smiled awkwardly and gave my farewells.
“……”
Close to Sakurai-kun, there’s a small person looking straight at me…the Great Sage-sama.
Right, gotta speak to her too.
“Great Sage-sama, I am sorry. Even though I just became your Guardian Knight.” (Makoto)
“I don’t mind.”
The Great Sage-sama’s voice was the same as usual to a cold degree.
It makes me a bit sad.
“I leave Abel to you.”
“Yes.” (Makoto)
The words of the legendary hero that saved the world before were brief.
Brief, but heavy.
The Great Sage-sama didn’t show her usual grin, and was looking at me expressionless.
“By the way…you didn’t meet me 1,000 years in the past, right?” (Makoto)
This is a point that bothers me a lot.
She is the only person here that’s from that time after all.
“……”
There’s no response.
“Great Sage-sama?” (Makoto)
“…I didn’t, Spirit User-kun.”
“I see…” (Makoto)
Too bad.
If I knew that I acted together with the Great Sage-sama, it would have been quite relieving.
Looks like I won’t be able to meet the Great Sage-sama again in the past.
I looked around the church and everyone’s gazes were directed at me too.
(…I want to go around and give my farewells to everyone, but I don’t have the time.) (Makoto)
I return to the platform.
And then, I kneeled in front of Noah-sama.
“I will now be heading 1,000 years into the past, Noah-sama.” (Makoto)
“Is that so… Your resolve is firm. I got it, Makoto.” (Noah)
Noah-sama placed a hand on my head.
Will I get some farewell words?
—“In the name of the Goddess Noah, I dismiss you from being my believer.” (Noah)
“Huh?” (Makoto)
I heard something outrageous.
“W-What are you doing?!” (Makoto)
I raised my voice, but Noah-sama still had a composed expression.
I hurriedly checked my Soul Book…and the words [Apostle of the Goddess Noah-sama] were gone!
“I have a different Apostle 1,000 years in the past. You won’t be my believer anymore when you go there anyways. My believers are fixed to 1 after all.” (Noah)
“I-I see…” (Makoto)
At least explain it to me beforehand.
“Althena, Makoto will be heading to the past on his own, so give him some sort of Divine Protection.” (Noah)
“Hmm…but with how low his stats are, I can’t give him any strong Skills…” (Althena)
“It is fine. Better than nothing.” (Noah)
“Well, fine.” (Althena)
Althena-sama extends her hand to me.
—“In the name of the Sun Goddess Althena, I confer you a Divine Protection.” (Althena)
A small light covered my body.
Althena-sama says: ‘With this, I have given you the [Sun Magic: Elementary] Skill’.
Ooh…a new Skill here?
“M-Me too!” (Ira)
Ira-sama hugged me.
Wa?!
The small body of Esther-san hugged me tightly.
“Takatsuki Makoto… I am sorry. I caused you trouble… I will grant you the Divine Protection of the Destiny Goddess. I pray for your safe journey. I confer to you the [Destiny Magic: Elementary] Skill.” (Ira)
A warm light flowed into my body from the body of Ira-sama.
Ira-sama hugged me just like that for a while.
“Ira-sama, thank you very much.” (Makoto)
“Takatsuki Makoto…when you are in the past, come meet me. My past and present memories are shared, so you can consult with me… I can only give you advice though.” (Ira)
“Got it. I will search for you, Ira-sama. I just need to find the Oracle of 1,000 years ago, right?” (Makoto)
“That’s right. I just hope the Oracle hasn’t been killed though…” (Ira)
Ira-sama said in a low voice while still hugging me.
Uhm…can you let go already?
““……””
I can feel cold gazes from my back.
“Come on, Ira, get away.” (Noah)
Noah-sama pulled Ira-sama off.
“Prepare the time travelling spell already.” (Noah)
“I know…” (Ira)
Ira-sama began to chant her spell.
…A spell that requires the Destiny Goddess to chant, huh.
As expected of travelling 1,000 years into the past.
It must be a big spell.
“Makoto, there’s a number of things I have to tell you…” (Noah)
Noah-sama told me a number of things regarding the situation of the Dark Era.
About the Great Demon Lord.
About the 9 Demon Lords.
Especially about the former Apostle of Noah-sama.
And then, about how I wasn’t the believer of Noah-sama 1,000 years ago.
…It makes me feel bad.
“Takatsuki Makoto, I will say it once again.” (Althena)
The Sun Goddess cut into our conversation.
“Your mission is to go 1,000 years into the past and save the life of Hero Abel. There’s no need to mind anything aside from that.” (Althena)
“Aside from that?” (Makoto)
That way of saying it bothers me.
“Althena, you are beating around the bush. Listen here, Makoto. In other words, ‘You can do anything as long as you save Hero Abel’. For example; even if that’s changing history to a great extent.” (Noah)
“Eh?” (Makoto)
“Oi, Noah, I didn’t go that far.” (Althena)
Althena-sama corrects Noah-sama.
I am going to the past for the sake of not changing history, and yet, it is okay to change the past?
Or more like, isn’t it the rule of the rules to not put a hand on history when time traveling?
“You must not. With that kind of lukewarm thinking, you won’t be able to survive in the Dark Era. Listen well. Bringing history back to normal is the job of the Destiny Goddess Ira, and we will have her do that as if her life depended on it, so you concentrate on saving Hero Abel, Makoto.” (Noah)
“The words of Noah are rough, but she is correct. There’s no need for you to worry about history. Just concentrate on Hero Abel. Even if history changes from your actions, Ira will adjust it.” (Althena)
“Uuh…I will do my best.” (Ira)
Ira-sama responds with a tearful voice at what Noah-sama and Althena-sama said.
…Is Ira-sama going to be okay?
Well, I understand now.
Ira-sama will do something about the changes in history to a certain extent.
What I should do is stop the demise of Hero Abel who even Ira-sama can’t do anything about.
It must mean that ‘I can use any means’ for the sake of that.
But what’s going on in the past?
“Hero Makoto!”
Someone ran to me.
Princess Sofia.
“Please take this.” (Sofia)
“This is…” (Makoto)
What I was given was a small picture book.
What’s written in the front cover is Hero Abel’s Legend.
“If you read that, you will know where Hero Abel is in the past~.” (Eir)
“I see. Thanks, Sofia, Eir-sama.” (Makoto)
I nodded at the words of Eir-sama.
It is true that books are important in order to have a grasp of history.
Other things that are needed are…
There’s a lot of things I want to bring with me, but there’s no time to prepare them.
“Takatsuki Makoto, it is ready.” (Ira)
Ira-sama called me.
At the platform there’s a giant rainbow colored gate made with magic.
“If you cross this time traveling gate, you will be sent 1,000 years into the past. I can’t tell you with certainty where you will be teleported to, but it normally is a place that’s deeply connected with you. I think you will be teleported somewhere in Rozes.” (Ira)
“Got it.” (Makoto)
I nodded.
Before I cross the gate, I turn to my comrades one more time.
Lucy, Sa-san, Princess Sofia, Furiae-san…and Noah-sama.
“I’ll be going.” (Makoto)
Saying this, I stepped into the time traveling gate Ira-sama made.
—I journey 1,000 years into the past.
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thanks for chap
with just elementary water mc is freaking op what about with sun and destiny added to that.Oh and he became the sun goddess’ follower huh
yay 60 chaps to binge ,such a treat,thanks for the feast ~
They look so pretty
In other words, ‘You can do anything as long as you save Hero Abel’. For example; even if that’s changing history to a great extent.” (Noah)
Lost the chance to say “whatever it takes”. The most anticipated line in Avengers. Good lord Makoto is battling Thanos here.
You know when Lucy asked if Makoto will come back to the present, at that moment both Ira and Furi were spechless and I think it’s not because they could see the RPG Player text, instead they saw an future or an posibility of Makoto coming back to the present again. In the first place, I think the Author just wanted to irritate us here, making us think Ira and Furi reacted to the text even though they actually are unable to see it because in the past nobody reacted to the RPG Player text.
Something big happened at that moment and it has been hidden from us pretty cleaverly, I really wounder though what the RPG Player did to make Ira and Furi speechless.
This whole mess would have been resolved if mc relied on the goddesses more. Guy who seems to be using divine power weird tell the goddess. Most important statue in the kingdom changes colors and no one else notices weird tell the goddess
theory that Makoto is Abel
abel is the light hero and can use saint tier magic (possible for Makoto now that he has light magic spirit user and 999 proficiency no longer bound by Noah’s command to not become spirit king)
Makoto is the only person ever to notice a change in Abels statue (a reflection of himself perhaps)
abel leaves the world never to be seen again his last words there is same one waiting for me ( a quote that Makoto said before ever hearing the line)
i also believe that the goddesses know this and are keeping this from him
I was wondering what would happen with the follower count restriction. So now Takki has Sun Magic and Destiny Magic, huh?
HeheheHAHAHAHA!!! *cackles in magic proficiency*
Well now this explains how he’s probably going to be able to impersonate Abel like a baller.
The way they set it up…are we gonna end up using Ira as a millennial telephone?
Please watch out for spoilers !
Watch out for spoilers ! There is someone who put spoilers above !
Hey you, watch ouy for those spoilers.
Someone contact translator-kun
If the translator sees that, he will get himself spoiled !
What if Makoto actually becomes Abel? What if Makoto, by travelling back to the past, and taking down the Demon Lord, uses the name of Abel, to not change history? That would also explain how “Savior Abel dissappeared suddenly one day, without leaving traces”, which is only Makoto returning to his timeline.
Of course, it would be after Makoto makes Anna fall for him, which would in turn create a paradox, in which Makoto goes back, in order to justfiy his existence 1000 years later. Also, Anna could be the Great Sage, turnt undead because she waits for Makoto to return to the future.
Just wanted to throw some of my ideas out there hehe
Spoilers! Ban them.
Ban this dude
And i feel like I’ve seen this name in FB before. I remember sending HDE of “Clearing an isekai” feats to someone who’s name is nagumo in FB.
Travelling to the past might be hard but there is more than one way to travel 1000 years into the future…
Thanks for the new chapter’s translation.
Wow, the next chapter must be something…
I think, makoto will change the past history flow. He usually took the hard way to clear something before.
Now, I have some opinion.
First, the hero abel is makoto it’s self.
Second, maybe he will change his name and will be contributing in the demon lord examination at the past.
Third, he will use his name, be friend with the hero abel and with the holy maiden Anna in the past, then will go with them in the demon lord iblis examination…
Thanks for the chapter!!!!
remember how Makoto used to hear the voice of the demon lord. I think that in order to save abel he befriends the demon lord and the demon lord isn’t actually evil but rather they were put in a situation that forced their hand. I feel like he’ll befriend the demon lord and the war will just stop. My only question is will multiverse theory exist or will this be one of those there is only one future type of stories.
This is really confusing. Isn’t the past called “past” because it happened already? Then how come Ira doesn’t know about Makoto from the present since they share the same memories from her past?
You need to remember, the destiny of Makoto cannot be seen by Ira, so, we could say that anything involving Makoto is likely to be unknown
Ira: “I can’t tell you with certainty where you will be teleported to, but it normally is a place that’s deeply connected with you.”
Scene in my head:
Makoto: *wakes up at the Deep Sea Temple* “Oh, shi-”
Noah: “Who are you and how the hell did you get here?”
She is not imprisoned at the time.
She is. She got imprisoned at the end of the Titanomachy (the Titan-Olympian war). After that came the appearance of Iblis and the demon/devil gods who subjugated the world. Typhon then offered to free Noah if she would get her Apostle to join his side but then he never fulfilled his promise.
Guys remember the past chapter. Coffin inside the House of Great Sage-sama
Holy motherfucking shit, you’re right. Originally I thought that he’d use time spirits but you just opened my eyes to a new theory.
Aight, picture this:
Makoto goes back in time and searches for abel. He either can’t find him or finds out abel is already dead, so he starts masquerading as Abel. He ends up meeting new companions, including a younger version of the Great sage, who doesn’t know him. He introduces himself to them as Abel. After training his sun proficiency and using op spirit strats, he beats the demon lord and the world is saved. To survive until present day, he goes into a time stasis, and the great sage takes “Abels” body to protect it.
So Makoto has actually been Abel this whole time. It explains why the great sage liked him so much upon meeting him, it was because he was her old battle buddy/beloved. And when she hesitated then said she didn’t meet Makoto in the past she was lying by omission. She did meet Makoto, but only when Makoto was pretending to be Abel.
Holy fuck, whether I’m right or wrong I’m so stoked for this arc
Could u tell Which chapter it locates? I just wanna to read again
Thank you so much for these, can’t wait for the next arc!
I hope he will befriend his sempai thousand years ago,
The clues noah said is like, he can be spirit king mode again huh
Thanks for the update, you are the best!!
Hope have connection with word demon lord say when meet him. (Forget name)
That was lonely journey af for Makoto. Hopefully he got harem while on this journey.
Didn’t the past have more spirits? Wouldn’t he be able to find a way to some way to return without having to wait that much?
Considering that now he has destiny magic and Noah showed that you can manipulate time with time spirit, he will probably be able to do that after he get enough proficiency with it. What I am curious is, if this won’t became something like he is actually Abel all along and that’s why the great sage likes him so much
Thanks for the chapter
The fact that Great Sage didnt say anything, the Goddess of the Moon still not making an appearance and the issue of her apostle in the past makes me wonder if they are all related and or will be touched upon in this coming arc, also, another thing that bothers me, makoto is really good with spirit magic, to a terrific point, so if he is set to go in the past, then it really is weird that no one mentions it, altho it could be due to the demon magic that tries to eliminate anything that could try to re-rewrite the past
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Wonder if a comment being too long block it?
Seems so or there is key words that block it. :thinking:
To just add the end, I was wondering if Johnny Walker womanizer tendencies came from the admiration he might develop for our airheaded gigolo as a spirit user and a man, making him his role model in the next arc. x)
Irene Cara – Fame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynZCDm0IEVM&ab_channel=mirrorro77
Baby, look at me and tell me what you see
You ain’t seen the best of me yet
Give me time, I’ll make you forget the rest
I got more in me and you can set it free
I can catch the moon in my hand
Don’t you know who I am?
Remember my name
I’m gonna live forever
I’m gonna learn how to fly
(High)
I feel it coming together
People will see me and cry
I’m gonna make it to heaven
Light up the sky like a flame
(Fame)
I’m gonna live forever
Baby, remember my name
(Remember, remember, remember, remember)
(Remember, remember, remember, remember)
Baby, hold me tight, ’cause you can make it right
You can shoot me straight to the top
Give me love and take all I got to give
Baby I’ll be tough, too much is not enough, no
I can ride your heart ’til it breaks
Oh, I got what it takes
I’m gonna live forever
I’m gonna learn how to fly
(High)
I feel it coming together
People will see me and cry
I’m gonna make it to heaven
Light up the sky like a flame
(Fame)
I’m gonna live forever
Baby, remember my name
(Remember, remember, remember, remember)
(Remember, remember, remember)
Ahh, i have a theory about this:
What if the timeline of this world is already a fixed timeline and Ira just doesn’t know about it. I mean, maybe history itself is a force here and it fixed itself by using another force from the future to mess with an irrergular that went back time to change the usual course. And it eliminated Makoto out of that timeline and mended history back it’s course(with the RPG player skill’s help) by somehow teleporting him back to the current timeline. So Ira,the only one who governs fate know about the timeline where makoto isn’t teleported to the past but doesn’t know about the fixed timeline caused by history itself.
And another theory about the coffin. Anna might be staying inside and will only awake when makoto comes back.
The existence of time spirits is pretty sus, hell probably use those to come back imo
Isn’t it should be makoto inside the coffin?
Time spirits don’t affect the world at large, they only affect the individual, e.g. When Noah turned back time for the people in the conference hall, it didn’t change the time of the world, just the time they experienced. So, being 1000 years in the past Makoto can’t use time spirits to skip directly to present day, as that would affect the world. What he CAN do, however, is use the spirits to enter a time stasis state, where time won’t affect him, and chill until time catches up to present day. For him, hell return to present day in an instant, but in reality, his body will be just hanging out for 1000 years. So all Makoto has to do is entrust his body to a trusted companion (1000 years ago great sage) to guard
So yes he’s in the coffin, but the reason he’s still alive is time spirits
Well, if he can control time spirits then why not train until he can time travel at will, right? I doubt he’ll just stop at hibernating for 1000 years. And the author actually spent time making a whole new heroine that is Anna so why would he end her role in a volume right? Another reason being, it wasn’t confirmed whether or not two people can hold the “light hero” skill at the same time. Also, if Makoto was really staying inside, doubt the sage would casually leave it around like that.
Okay. Someone prove me wrong.
Lot of good comments for possible issues with THIS time travel. Like idea of time spirits putting Makoto in stasis till time catches upto him 😉
The force that keeps the changed timeline might be his RPG Player skill
both Furi and Ira seems scared at him when the choice pops up
Who is Anna?
ok so working off the assumption that Makoto ISN’T Hero Abel.
We know that time spirits are a thing now, BUT we also know spirits are rather fickle if we assume that the goddess are correct and a ‘jump’ to the future isn’t possible for a mortal, its unlikely that Makoto could get the spirits to help do a time freeze for a full 1000 years.
Other things we know
For most spells the spirits actually are just the mana supply for Makoto
Hero Abel disappeared shortly after saving the world.
The hero skill Hero Abel has (assuming its the same as this generations which seems likely) allows generating almost limitless mana from sunlight.
Makoto can supercharge this by focusing the light like a lens
Makoto can sync with Hero Abel because he now has the sun magic skill
Charm magic can make the spirits more cooperative
Noah can command the time spirits
Possible solutions-
Makoto using Hero Abel as the power source makes a spell that will slow their personal time until they reach the future. possible place a certain comet that almost squished a city (could potentially always have access to sunlight to power the spell this solution doesn’t need the spirits and stopping their time would protect them from space exposure).
Makoto using the time spirits and crazy high charm magic freezes his time and makes the spirits cooperate long term. possible place chekhov’s coffin (could require maintenance which would explain the sage needing to preserve her power so much)
Makoto calls in the favor to Hero Abel and together they brave the deep sea temple upon reaching Noah Makoto explains the circumstances Noah freezes time for Makoto(+Abel?) until the present. Once released from the freeze Noah makes Makoto her believer again and the condition for freeing the goddess is achieved. (the Noah doesn’t seem particularly restricted in the temple and commanding the spirits wouldn’t use her power so it sidesteps the divine intervention rule. also while freeing Noah requires a believer to reach her there’s no rule mentioned saying a nonbeliever can’t visit if they make it that far)
At first, I thought that it was cold that Makoto didn’t even have time for a conjugal visit before hiding hurled into the past, but if it lets him get good with the look Sage in the past, it will be worth it.
As a gamer, it will be disappointing if he does not use an online alias in the past.
Well, once he gets good with time powers he’ll be able to regain his tasty snack status at will.
I’M SO HYPED RIGHT NOW
Thanks for the chapter! Another one that raises many questions and many more expectations, can’t wait to see what happens next!
Gracias por la traducción
Thanks for the chapter, you are the best
Thanks for the chapter~!
“There is someone waiting for me.” Hero Abel, to Saint Anna
Of course there is, He promised to come back after to his elf lover after all.
[There’s no response.
“Great Sage-sama?” (Makoto)
“…I didn’t, Spirit User-kun.” ]
Great Sage is pretty sus. Now that this is almost confirmed, it made me wonder, how much feeling is behind Great Sage to wait for Makoto for 1000 years. Damn everyone in his harem got some deep feelings alright, we only haven’t seen that side of Janet yet.
[Ira-sama said in a low voice while still hugging me.
Uhm…can you let go already?
““……””
I can feel cold gazes from my back.]
Cute ponkotsu Ira! will she ever be a heroine?
Man, finally we’re on the last chapter of this arc. Comes up next is Makoto’s adventure in the past. Will he get another set of harem?
The big reveal that is the time travel is already out, and next would be Makoto-Abel-Cain relationship. Who’s who, and what’s what. It’s fun to speculate other things too.
Fun thing I noticed, both Makoto story translated by Reigokai, Tsuki and Weakest Mage, hasn’t finished their next arc yet. Will we catch up with raws soon?
P.S: Next arc, author will be getting more active in the chapter afterword, writing more than usual. I might rough translate some of it using MTL and edited to be readable if Reigokai didn’t do it, since few contains details (especially the “Impression Replies” part) you readers might’ve asked, that author deliberately didn’t put in the story due to character constraint, or saving it to be explored more in the LN
Next arc of WM or Tsuki?
of what? next arc not finished yet? both
author getting more talkative and I’m planning to translate his comments? WM
[Of course there is, He promised to come back after to his elf lover after all.
Now that this is almost confirmed, it made me wonder, how much feeling is behind Great Sage to wait for Makoto for 1000 years. ]
Now that you said it, he literally left behind Anna and the Great Sage. I think that the Great Sage might resent Makoto a bit for leaving her alone for 1000 years. Makoto is probably the one who said “There is someone waiting for me” as it fits perfectly the reason why Abel said those words and mysteriously disappeared.
I wonder if the love between Anna and Makoto will bloom. Will it end like the love between the Silver Princess and the Blue Knight in Rokujouma no Shinryakusha ? Like the MC returns to his timeline and Makoto and Anna never end up together.
She might be the one that is in the coffin, and waits until Abel/Makoto (assuming they are the same person) finishes his task. So the epilogue of the future arc should have her meeting up with Makoto in the future. The consequence of this is that means the Royal Family has the biggest scandal in their history, by lying that they are the descendants of the Holy Maiden.
There is a possibility that Anna moved on and had descendants, of course.
Rokujouma no Shinryakusha is a really good story even it was a big obvious who is the Blue knight or the Silver Princess 😉 I like the idea that Abel and Makato is the same person but would mind if abel was a female and only Makato (and the goddess) knew it^^
Remember that Great Sage’s advice to Makoto when they first meet.
“Spirit User-kun, I recommend you to stop being the Apostle of the Evil God by the next time we meet. Obeying that Evil God will only end in misery.”
That might be referring to both her and Anna being left by Makoto in the past
This brings up my theory:
If Anna and Great Sage were the one to fall for Makoto in the past, It’d make sense for Anna to chase after Makoto, since she’s the only one that’s not immortal. The way of achieving that is either to clear super hard dungeon whose rewards is immortality, or that mysterious coffin inside Great Sage’s ice house is Anna.
Also, by bringing Anna to the present, it’d relieve Noel from her post, so she could save Sakurai from his fate of being stabbed, thereby avoiding the prophecy without interfering with the present too much.
Obrigado
Maybe Makoto went to the past and split into two? The lost member in Abel party is one part, and the other part became great demon lord?
That’s why the voice he heard in the earlier part of highland event was the same as his?
I was waiting for his “It can’t be helped.”.
Thanks for the chapter ^^
I think it was a little bit rushed I had hope that he got some days to speak with his team mate/lovern. And maybe convert Lucy or Aya to Noahism ;)( I don’t think that Eir let Sofia go, the same with Janet and Furious) and ask the great sage for something to say to make her past “Her” Believe in Makoto or something like that
Thank you kami-sama.
Too many things to comment on and most were covered in previous comments. I’ll say my guess on whats next. Guess and not spoiler in case im right. I guess he’ll drop in at Abel’s summoning circle and be hero Abel. He’ll use his spirit magic to get his sun magic to 999 like his water. I wonder what his spirit magic is at? Maybe it’s just a passive skill with no level. All that’s left to say is poor Anna who’s first love is doomed to fail.
I got a goosebump on thsi chapter.
The feeling of making on the way to the final arc of an RPG game specially the japanese one, got my vibes out of it.
Those feeling when i play all day and immersed playing an RPG, with a little bit love story, got my emotion as if im the MC.
Those feelings i had on that games, i can feel it to this chapter.
I thought that he would freeze himself in the past in order to return to the present, but Noah just confirmed on the previous chapter that spirits of time exist and now Ira just gave makoto compatibility with time magic that plus his lv 999 mana control, it’s almost certain that he will use time spirit magic to return
First time commenting here.
I have a theory about how he might acquire more proficiency on time related magic. There this Synchronization which he hadn’t use in a long while now and here… what if he sync with Ira’s oracle? My reason being that Ira always if not 24/7 descend into Esther so wouldn’t it be possible with the oracle from 1000 years ago? Just a thought. Or he either sync with spirit of time like he did with Undine back in the Sun Country? No? What do you think of this possibility? Have been pondering about how he might get home with spirit help.
Thanks for the chapter, wondering how well he will get along with Jhonny Walker and Abel.
Thanks for the chapter!! Ou aku bersemangat untuk ark selanjutnya!!
Thanks for the chapter
Thanks!
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Quest Chain: The Otherworld
Quest: An Unknown Time
You have chosen to travel 1000 years back in time to save the Hero Abel. Good Luck!
Ira and Makoto’s hug finally got the reaction of cold stares from the girls lol. She’s clingy too and it required Noah to remove her. He should have kissed each of the girls once for good fortune.
As expected, RPG treats this event as a forced plot event and his only choices are coming back to present or staying in the past. He’s probably forced to come to the present anyway like he said. In Dragon Quest 11, the player choices are an illusion. Even if you choose no, the characters and surroundings force you into it.
Sun and destiny magic. He can now make thunderstorms and hurricanes. His new hero moniker should Storm King or something. Light spirits and time spirits let’s go!
Great Sage is lying. She paused right before answering. She definitely met him before. Also, Makoto is still dense. He didn’t notice the time spirits hint that Noah showed or that he can become something other than human to live longer. He can change anything he likes as long as he secures Abel, such as making children…. but Ira is correctly it to the present. So if Makoto is active for 1-10 years, Ira has 990 years to align it to present.
With the way things are going, I kind of expect Makoto to be the Great Demon Lord (GDK) and be sealed for 1,000 years or something. After Makoto killed the GDK, he took its place. I feel like that’s the best way to protect Sakurai from being killed.
or, make saint Anna or hero Abel to come to the future, so that they can hold the empty spots while princess Noel is on the side of Sakurai to revive him, along with Makoto himself participates on the present final battle against Iblis
“Shut up! Airheaded Goddess!”
(Yes, Lucy, you had said what most of use thought)
Hmm, as I said before a friend told me that he would obtain the Destiny Magic in this vol, but he said it was in the beginning so in this point I though I was wrong or that I read it wrong (in that moment I moved the eyes to not see more of the spoiler), so I can’t be completely surprised about this, but at the same part I’m also a bit surprised, the thing that really surprised my was the Sun Magic, that was completely unexpected, now Makoto know of the existence of the Destiny Spirits so with the new skills he can use the respectives spirits.
And yes, Ira-chan seems like really like Makoto, so the ship is real, I’m happy about that.
We all knew Makoto would go to the past. It’s not even a choice for a gamer brain like him which is probably why RPG Player didn’t give him a choice. Of course it would instead give him the choice of either remaining in the past or finding a way to return to the present. Staying in the past would be like the normal ending while returning to the present would help in unlocking the true ending.
So I guess that answers that question about Makoto’s Apostlehood. He’ll lost his title of being Noah’s Apostle since 1000 years ago, Noah would still be restricted to only one believer. At least he’s being given elementary sun and destiny magic as compensation. I do wish Eir had also given him a divine protection to raise his water magic to mid rank. It would still be within range of the restrictions imposed on who can be sent to the past.
Also Ira sure is getting clingy to Makoto huh? I guess she can fill the little sister role in the harem. Great Sage fills the loli role instead.
Now then when Makoto asked if the Great Sage met him 1000 years ago, that got me thinking. I think either because of some weird predestination time paradox, Makoto is the unknown extra companion of the Great Sage’s party that she previously alluded to and that because it’s a paradox his identity is vague so the Great Sage can only remember that there was SOMEBODY else in her party but not remember any specifics because technically Makoto hasn’t met them in the past yet. Or the history rewrite magic has had side effects that are rippling backwards through time from when it was activated and the side effects are making the Great Sage not remember that it was Makoto that was in her party 1000 years ago. Though regardless of the reason, the Great Sage is probably starting to suspect that Makoto is the mystery member of her party.
Oh so Makoto has free rein to change the past however he wants so long as Abel doesn’t die? Maybe he should increase Rozes’ influence and lower Highland’s. Rozes really needs greater influence and Highland’s nobles need to get knocked down a shit ton of pegs. Maybe by doing so, it can change the future so Sakurai doesn’t get forced into having a harem made up of mostly women he doesn’t even like and forced to have as many kids as possible.
I don’t think its as easy as it sounds. Makoto can change anything he likes as long as he secures Abel, such as making children…. but Ira is correcting it to the present. So if Makoto is active for 1-10 years, Ira has 990 years to align it to the present.
Great Sage is probably lying since she did pause before answering slowly. And she overreacted when Bifrons talked to Makoto. She also seems to know a bit too much about his RPG skill. If they met in the past, that would at least explain some of these circumstances.
Ira and Makoto’s hug! Cheers mates! The harem finally gave cold stares to it. New rivals for the harem: Noah and Ira. I wonder what they’re thinking.
I don’t know. I wouldn’t put too much faith in Ira fixing history to align it with the present all that well. She IS the Ponkotsu Goddess…
Thanks for the chapter.
Bruh!! I’m excited for when makoto mastered sun and destiny magic lol.
Ira in koala-mode, some skills added(at last), Lucy solidified her position as the legal wife(as the only one to make him return no matter how, and scolding a goddess – nice family tradition).
What did surprise me a bit is Noah’s reaction? Btw, she seems didn’t take away his dagger… Will Makoto get a second dagger from Cain-senpai and roleplay 2godslayer dagger assassin? Using mist, mirages(sun magic) and timestop(destiny magic) to scare the hell of demons.
Well, we know the light hero’s original weapon went missing when he did. Maybe Makoto will appropriate that? Sakurai taught him how to do sword magic way back, but it wasn’t great for water magic and his low stats have kept him from wielding anything heavier than his dagger.
I agree with the theory that it could be that Makoto would be savior able but there is one big problem in this: we know that there was a “light hero” in 1000 years ago because althena said that it take 1000 years to create a “light hero” skill and if they don`t used it 1000 years ago when there was 10 demon lords and the great demon lord Was at the height of his power and use it when there is only 3 demon lords so why the great demon lord weakened.
Ya i understand your qury but think why is it 1000 year he will go 1000 year in past when the skill was made for him in the past and makoto who is not beliver of noah now will go under Athena and then he will fight the demon lord and vanish from the history. This plot got me excited. But I feel bad for sakurai as he is just sun hero in name, but the real one is makoto.
It’s interesting because with sun magic makoto got we can go with theory in which makoto is Abel as we heard from noel that savior abel left holy maiden and said that somebody is waiting for him. So we can go with theory that something happens to abel and he die and makoto impersonated him or he never existed in first place.Even if makoto power is weak it was said that holy gods were weak in past so if there are sun spirit he may be able to use them to use powerful sun magic like abel. If we go with this theory im most interested in makoto(abel) meeting and defeating noah apostol of that time as I think there will be more to that than just fight.
Well, it was nice recently. I think this is it for me. Not going to hang around for this. The only part of this novel worth anything was the characters and particularly their relationships. Throwing all that away… nope. I’m done. Thanks for the translation. I’ll just count this as an awful ending.
He finally got new magic..
can someone remeber how long for him reach 100 or 120 (requirements for spirit) for water magic. if he can do it quickly he might able to return to future but it is already altered so will they remeber him as he is now or does he also will meet himself if he messed up the timing..
since he can change past freely there is chance all hero who killed will be saved and noah punishment cleared. for that i think that perv God going to owe him. may be he is the one sent him back too.
Time Travel always cause paradox bit confusing matter..
That’s actually a really good point. If Makoto went above and beyond; saved all the heroes killed in the original timeline? That might level the balance of power in the original timeline. The water country is weak in part because it lost it’s hero bloodline. Of course if he messes around too much with causality he could accidentally erase someone from history, or gender-swap Geralt or something.
I think his proficiency in water magic applies with a penalty to any other magic. If it works like synchro, 9999 water magic proficiency – 100 penalty = 9899 light magic proficiency. If there’s light spirits, he should automatically be able to see and use them. Or maybe there’s no light spirits but there are lightning spirits, in which case he needs an active storm as a mana-battery.
I would say instead of a static value it would be a fraction, for example one tenth. Having 999 Proficiency in Water Magic for example would be equivalent 99 Proficiency in other magic skills. I dunno though, all speculation.
Thanks for the chapter!
To the past, we go!
I have a two prediction of how makoto can return to the present
its either:
1. he will use time spirit to time travel
2. encase himself in a coffin
(coffin coated with time spirit spell, while water magic to created a space to trap the mana inside the room, and lastly using the sun magic to gather sunlight that produces mana)
its must be either those two.
what if the reason why ira didn’t remember makoto is that after the great demon king’s death, she will need to erase the memories of every one of their memories on makoto to prevent the humans 1000 years later from learning that one of the summoned appeared in the past, breaking the cycle of fate of makoto send to the past to save abel, the side effect of that action of ira is that her memory in the past might sealed, while in great sage is that the makoto in the past in her memory might be blurred until she met the present summoned makoto that cleared it
I’m no specialist in such thing but….
According to a theory, traveling back in time doesn’t essentially mean that your traveling in past. It means you are traveling in the SPAVE-TIME fabric. That is, while you travel in the past you have just been teleported to a world which had same timeline as that of this one, just the time is very slow or lagging behind in that world. And, if you imagine dimension as stack of plate one over other, then going down is easy but going up is really difficult. You have to have exact coordinates of the dimension you want to travel to(in this case, tracing the energy of Great demon lord) and more energy compared to when you go in the past.
So it means that even if Makoto changes the history he won’t be saving his orignal world but this world that he was sent to, if the author good with this explanation.
If he uses the looked of time spirits, he may or may not be able to go back. Its also possible that the case on the great sages room has something Makoto must’ve entrusted her to give him when the time is right. For Ira, you can say she can connect with her other dimensional counterparts and access their memories to some extent. And I also think that the hidden powers of RPG player skill has a part in her not remembering him which probably should be revealed.
I’m more excited about what he’ll do with his new skills. If he gained their proficiency like his water magic, I could imagine him literally bending rays of light and project them towards Abel make atomic-bomb or even more powerful dimensional-rift level attack.
Awwwwwwww……. Sofia really is enduring with her [Coldheart]
Anyways, thanks for the new chapter.
(P.S. this is only a theory out of many and it’s credibility depends upon what kind of theory author-sama of going to choose and apply here)
Except they’ve already established that someone is messing with the timeline of this world. If you were going with the “changes to the past spin off into new universes” theory then this couldn’t happen. This is just a predestination loop. You can change the future, so long as it doesn’t change the whereby you go to go to the past. Like, if you go to the past to save a loved one from laser raptors and succeed, leave future you a note to travel to the past and do that, because otherwise they won’t know that’s a thing they need to do.
Hmmmm
Yes exactly that. Now my confusion is gone. Thanks man
There are two common theories of time traveling, either you are predestined to be there or you are creating a new timeline. The latter is self answered question. However, the former is basically you are going back to time is already something that should happen, so in the end, you don’t change any fate. Let’s say you want to prevent someone dies at certain time, if the world abides on the former theory, then he would be certainly still dead but you know the reasons of it (might be because of you or something). In Japanese literature, there is another common theory, basically changing the (main) timeline every time someone from the future changes it.
This story is either following the predestined theory or the change-without-creating-parallel-timeline theory. Either way, both are commonly used in Japanese literature. So we should look at the further chapters to know which theory this series uses.
It’s just a speculations but I think that it’s a possibility that mokoto was hero abel of the past. As his choice which came forward at the end when he chooses to accept Lucy promise will become the reason for the hero abel dissappears in the history. And noah knew the working of past that’s why she released it. And the vampire mage knew who he was from the beginning so she waited for him for 1000 years. What a legend plot if its likes this. Author is something translator kun don’t kick me as if I am correct by chance. Then this Is just my speculation and I swear that have not read the novel and is going with your translation.
Hmm… The way this is going is making me think that Makoto is savior Abel, like when he goes to the place written on the book, there’s no one resembling Abel so Makoto had to choice but to deal with it himself. While I wouldn’t mind the story going like that, I’d still very much like it of this Abel is a completely different person.
I had the same speculations so I wrote it below lol.
Thanks for the chapter.
Not sure if anyone else brought this up yet or not but I think Makoto may lose his Spirit Magic skill as it was a gifted skill from Noah for being his follower. He may still retain it but there is no guarantee.
I do like that the author is not trying to pull the over-used drama crap with the time travel about not changing the past.
You wont lose your owned skills if you convert to other pantheon. Eir, Ira and Noah already told him that when Ira wanted to give him skills by converting to her pantheon first before going back to Noah’s.
Most likely he’s not going to lose it. It was mentioned earlier back when Makoto only just found out that Noah is an Evil God. Basically, even if he stop being her follower, he won’t lose the skill.
Thank you very much for the chapter.
And now we’re entering the longest arc yet. Fitting since it’s basically its own saga. At the very least the author seem to plan it to end in a single arc (which IMO is rather hasty, but then if it took too long the complaints about leaving established characters behind will also be legitimate. I kinda wish it’d be its own spinoff or something).
Makoto certainly seem to be taking actions lightly…, but on the other hand, there are legitimate thoughts put into those actions. Killing the gryphon? It’s a kill or be killed situation, running simply means they get killed while tired from running. Destroying every demon attack on Laphroaig ruins? It was easy because there are plenty spirits and water. Participating in the fight against the Beast King? It’s the only way to ensure Sakurai’s safety. Fighting off Alex? Difficult, but considering the (former) Pope’s stance on being an Evil God’s believer as well, it was inevitable. And so on. In this case, well, either he goes back in time to save everything, or he stays and basically consign the world to its destruction.
And about time someone actually gets infected with The Sass here 😂. Lucy just out and out called Ira an airhead.
Note what happens when Makoto has choices popping up. This is about the second time it happens in front of Furiae, first time it does in front of Ira. Both times Furiae reacted, and without fail Ira also reacts (though interrupted by Noah). What do the two of them have in common? Future sight. In all seriousness, everyone attributes Makoto’s seeming lack of foreseeable future as him being fanatical to Noah. And yet, he’s hardly fanatical especially if you can see into his thought process. He’s certainly devoted and with an unconventional thought process, but a fanatic wouldn’t even consider refusing their goddess’ advice in favor of their own choice, for one. It’s definitely his RPG Player skill. An RPG isn’t a kinetic novel, and while there are points with linear progression, there are branching paths as well. And when the choices pop up, it’s where the effects are most pronounced, and it flusters even the local goddess of destiny. It’s probably comparable to god-tier fate magic in effect considering Ira’s reaction.
It’s honestly difficult to imagine Makoto doesn’t even meet Great Sage in the past, especially since he should come into contact with the legendary party if his mission is to proceed at all. And her answer hardly sounds definitive either. It really makes you wonder how exactly she’s affected by the changing past.
And vindication : low stats means limited options for skills. I get the feeling that if she could, Althena would have given him something even better, it is a big favor after all. Which again, makes me wonder as to how Eir would have given Makoto that Water Magic Saint skill at all had he converted? She probably could have given it to him regardless but how will Makoto even use it?
In any case, more magic skills, more magic proficiency to work with. Does Sun Magic have any associated spirit at all? And Fate Magic should relate with time spirit, if not exactly the sort of magic required to eventually see them considering that fate is deeply tied with time.
Ira will be worked to the bone here. It does make sense to give Makoto a lot of room to work with, just an overarching goal with no specific steps. Any discrepancy are for Ira to work out, Makoto has enough on his plate without having to worry about whether or not bumping into someone is going to change history in a bad way or not.
And something I can’t believe I didn’t think about earlier : the pantheon can grow. It was seven, but it’s going to be eight as per Althena’s incentive to Makoto. It makes you wonder if not all seven were part of the same pantheon from the start? Mainly, is the Moon Goddess even related to the others? Between the open discrimination against her and her people and the overlap in Fate Magic with Ira, it makes me suspicious that she’s a later addition. Especially considering how the moon is apparently some sort of interplanar portal too. Maybe she’s the gatekeeper, and was only added for reasons related to the otherworlder?
Maybe the moon goddess is from different pantheon?
Just like the war between aesir and vanir gods makes up the composition of norse mythology?
Could certainly be. In any case, I personally think she’s not native, as such.
So, i just spent around 10 mins reading the comments and found a conclusion:
Time travel hurts my brain. A LOT. I have no more brain capacity to formulate a hypothesis. I’ll just wait for the next chapter.
Also thanks for the chapter.
Time to grind proficiency!!!
Finally the Latest Arc thanks~
Thanks for the new chapter!
Makoto doing time heist, but instead going to 8 years ago, he go straight to 1000 years in the past. This era is where the spirit user at its peak, thanks to the abundance of spirit in that era. With his ability in using spirit and destiny magic bestow by Ira, there’s no way he won’t use the time spirit to manipulate time and space. All he needs is train his destiny magic proficiency to 9999. lmao.
Honestly, I was half expecting the chapter would end with Makoto suddenly entering the the church saying, “I’m back” XD
Yeah Ira is gonna be part of the harem 100%. Actually she just told us her past and present is shared so isn’t this her chance to spend quality time with him while descended in her past Oracle? Some how I feel like RPG-san isn’t just a marker of large turning points in his journey, considering how both Furi and Ira reacted when it popped up I’m willing to bet it’s more like something that can alter fate, after all both of them are related to foretelling the future and reading fate as it were and I don’t think that reaction was just because he got a prompt to return.
Time travel… it is no longer transmigration fantasy genre but sci-fi.
Normally yes, but the time travel is not being achieved by a piece of technology here.
Rather this is time travel via magic… specifically the power of a Goddess.
After reading this chapter, I’m became more certain that the next arc going to be like Blue Knight arc on Invaders of the Rokujouma but a bit easier because Makoto can change the history as he please…
I wonder if it’s actually Makoto that’s in that coffin that’s in the Great Sage’s room.
That would be awesome.
Thanks! Nepu!
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I am just going to guess here, but I think that the way he comes back to the future is in an animated suspension, he’ll get suspended and the vampire is going to be guarding him, I don’t know if I remember wrong but, wasn’t there a special sealed coffin in the great sage residence?
Yes, that coffin exist
Though my theory is that it’ll be Saint Anna and not Makoto
ira-chan hugging makoto! kya~
ohhhhh makoto getting two new magic! is there any sun spirit or destiny spirit? XD
RPG Player not giving him a choice means that he was always going back into the past huh. The fact that Ira and Furie can see RPG Player choices means that it’s related to destiny. Actually, it is interesting that they can see the choices but can’t see Makoto’s destiny himself. From an RPG perspective, it makes sense that you can’t change huge events like going back in the past, you aren’t able to skip disc 2.
I didn’t think that Lucy would be the one telling him to return, I thought it would be Noah. I guess that Lucy is the main heroine.
I didn’t think that Noah would remove him as a follower. I guess this means he won’t be able to talk with Noah in the past. On the plus side, he probably wouldn’t be able to get divine blessings as Noah’s believer. Hmm, it would be quite funny if after getting these blessing and he becomes the apostle of past Noah. Like, it was just a trick get Makoto the other goddesses blessings.
At this point, it is very likely that Makoto is going to become Abel. I thought it might be a red herring but giving him sun magic almost clinches it. I think it would be more fun if he wasn’t Abel though.
Reading the theories of others is really fun… Specially those who have wild imaginationsl… I’m reading ahead by google translating the raws so i know what’s gonna happen hehe..
Most of your questions will gonna be answered in the upcoming chapters though especially those questions for Ira-sama’s memories….
Rekogai translation really is the BEST
(This id not counted as spoiler right?? I dont want to be baned!! huhu)
have a sneaking suspicion
that great-sage-sama is hiding something
look at that long pause
and ponder once more her affinities 😀
Makoto getting the sun magic elementary means he might actually be Abel. The Great Sage said that he didn’t meet Makoto but probably Abel as Makoto. And then at the end of the story Abel disappeared.
I mean they are slipped how hes getting back last chapter, I’m sure he’s gonna use the time fairies which should be possible now that he has ira blessing.
Damnit at least do the deed with your harem makoto!!(ノ｀Д´)ノ彡┻━┻
Can’t Makoto just wait it out if he gets enough achievments? More preciselly, can’t him find a way to freeze himself in time?
If I’m not mistaken there is a dungeon that if cleared will grant Immortality I think it was on the same level as the undersea temple
Thanks for the chapter! I feel like Makoto will go and free Noah from the Undersea Temple because he IS Makoto. Also Ira may already know Makoto but refrains from being intimate with him because it may change the future. And him going back to 1000 years ago IS a Forced Event not when Lucy wants her to be with his party because he doesn’t have a choice. Also remember that Furiae and Ira can see the future and Makoto has invisible future? My theory is that because of his RPG Player Skill his future is undetermined since in RPGs, we can choose what kind of ending we want like what he does every time.
I wanna say a lot of things but I’m too lazy to type so I’m just gonna say…
Thanks for the chapter!
With how the plot is going, I’m pretty sure Makoto will turn out to be Sun Hero Abel. That or the Original Abel died as soon as he returned to the past and he just used that to transform as him.
RPG Player didn’t ask him to save or destroy it which means the Destiny is already set there. The only thing that changes destiny is whether or not he promised to go back and that is very similar to what Hero Abel said in the story. Great Sage doesn’t help either. She didn’t answer immediately, which makes me think that while she doesn’t believe that Makoto is Abel, she certainly suspects the possibility that Makoto is Abel.
PS: I read Reigo’s warning about spoilers last two chapters ago. No, I didn’t read the spoilers. No, I didn’t read future chapters either. All of these are just speculations and Hypotheses in my part.
Why do I suspect Makoto is going to save Abel by taking his place after he is killed? Actually, wasnt Rosalie around back then also? Between her, great sage and all the godesses, you would think someone would remember Makoto
Mybe they do but rember makoto hates spoilers so maybe he asked people to keep quiet about him that’s why he was never mentioned about and also removed from history
Rosalie wasn’t but her ancestor, Johnny Walker, was.
Personal theory with how this ended:
First possibility, makoto will replace abel/is abel. Noah and Athena knows about this that is why no goddesses pick makoto when he first arrived. Would explain where the savior abel went after beating the demon lord. With makoto’s contol even beginer magic can be used like the sun hero skill especially in a time where spirits are not bound by the holy gods
Second possibility Cain is makoto, and will protect the savior from inside the enemy lines less proof/foreshadowing for this idea other than they were both insane
Third possibility im insane and im spouting nonsense.
Once again thnx for the translations just wanted to share whats in my head right now as its filled with all sorts of possible outcomes from this
The latter doesn’t make sense because Cain was blinded by Noah’s charm and she removed him from her believer.
It’s more like that Abel the Saviour is Makoto, and it is predestined. Since we know that Makoto has a limitless capability to gain proficiencies, his Sun skills will be really OP– and since the dark era barely had light, that means Makoto will gain more OP skills compared to Sakurai when he goes back to real time lmao.
Tbh I already have a hunch that Makoto == Abel when Princess Noel said that Abel ran away after defeating the demon lord, noting that “there was someone waiting for him” (Thought it was for Noah, but probably for Lucy). Well, we’ll see whether Makoto == Abel, or Abel’s companion.
A̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶t̶’̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶f̶u̶n̶n̶y̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶f̶f̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶G̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ̶S̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶t̶e̶c̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶v̶i̶o̶u̶s̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶a̶i̶n̶t̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶p̶r̶i̶n̶c̶e̶s̶s̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶f̶r̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶M̶a̶k̶o̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶R̶o̶y̶a̶l̶ ̶F̶a̶m̶i̶l̶y̶ ̶l̶i̶n̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶n̶’̶t̶ ̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶.̶
Another point for the Makoto=Abel theory was that Cain (Noah’s previous believer) was a hero killer that killed every hero except Abel and it seemed extrangely friendly with Abel, I think this was mentioned in a conversation with the Great Sage.
Now why would the savior of humanity and Noah’s apostle who is an enemy of humanity be friendly/friends? How about both being extremly devoted to the same goddes!
The current royal family line wasn’t from her directly and everyone knows this right? That’s why they’re desperate to get actual Sun Hero’s bloodline by getting Noel to marry Sakurai
@simplethrone
I said, directly from *her* (Holy Maiden), not *him* (The Saviour).
@Qwerty
Yeah, that’d be hilarious tho if Cain was suddenly becoming the companion because Makoto was Noah’s believer.
@simplethrone
You made me check chap 80, and Leo said according to the kingdom “The Highland royal family are the descendants of the Holy Maiden Anna, the one that they lacked is Sun Hero.”
But, my speculation is the government lied because Anna refused to marry anyone and chose to freeze in the coffin, or she adopted her sibling’s kid before doing the former so technically they are her descendant.
It’s mostly because is a split in destiny and since they have a bif affinity for destiny magic they can sense just how important that decision can be
Okay, so he has light magic now. And shape-change magic, and no one remembers him in the past except possibly the demon lord Bifrons. There’s a lot of Checkovs guns pointed at everything going hilariously wrong and him having to “Weekend at Bernies” the light hero, except Bifrons specifically said “He wasn’t a Hero” in referring to Makoto. Maybe he’ll become a demon lord under Iblis but then betray them or something?
Seriously??? Noah hardly says anything??? I hate her so much.
it is all part of her plan. soon everything shall fall into place, read one of the comments (by Asphyxia)
Thanks for the chapter!!
Spirit king speedrun any%
Makoto has the advantage since there are more spirits >:D
New synchro opportunities
Elementary light magic and elementary destiny magic may affect his spirit magic
Let’s go! I am looking forward to the new arc!!!
New mana batteries ? I can’t wait for that.
not just new batteries, new spirits :DDDDD
Who will he sync with ? The Great Sage ? The Holy Maiden Anna ?
That answers some of my questions from the previous chapters. With Ira’s support, it would be much easier. Spirit magic should be intact, as Noah mentioned that the skill would stay even if he converted to other goddesses. I don’t think even Johny Walker has the same proficiency as makoto. He’s far from powerless. Still, the weird point is that while the devil side can feel powerful individual, Makoto’s insane magic proficiency is somehow undetected, I suppose they could only sense stats rather than the skill itself. With how crazy the stories regarding the dark era. Makoto’s massive firepower might be something of a norm compared to the future.
Thanks for the chapter
Makoto is drawing his powers from an external source (the Spirits), so he is perfect individual to send to the past because he won’t be detected by the Devils.
The proficiency itself has no power, its literally a representation of how well he can handle power but he has none hence why he borrows from the spirits. When not using the spirits Makoto is weaker then the average citizen thus he is the “weakest” hero and far below the radar of the devils. I just remembered the casual conversation he had with the demon lord and his subordinate with the petrification eyes and I’m getting the feeling he might make some friends among the demons/devils…
New ark? Les gooooo. Thanks for your hard work as always
Thanks for the chapter as always~!
I wonder if the promise with Lucy is what is going open the path back? Judging from Ira and Furiae reaction, they must have seen something really big happened, like the string of fate going haywire and rearranging itself around Makoto.
Also I remember a Coffin inside Great Sage room that she was pretty evasive about it, I wonder if that’s where the past Makoto resides.
Also also I think Noah is definitely in on it. How she said “‘You can do anything as long as you save Hero Abel’. For example; even if that’s changing history to a great extent.” and how she ask Althena and Ira to give him Sun Magic(same type as Abel) and Destiny Magic(which is probably needed to go back).
This is looking like rokujouma no shinkaryou, if anyone has read it you will know what i mean
The Sage paused a bit when Makoto asked if he had met her 1000yrs ago, so it probably means that they had met each other. So i think what i said is quite justified
I don’t know that series, but I do know this: Never reply honestly to time travelers.
Gotta get back. Back to the past.
Just do whatever you want, as long as Abel is saved, they said as they pushed all the responsibility and stress onto Ira.
Also, Great Sage’s suspicious silence is suspicious.
And since he’s going back in time to change the past the demons are trying to create, I’m not entirely sure how useful the book will be.
Especially with the fact that there are already things changing in the present. There might already be a divergence in history.
And Ira’s ability to share memories with past and present her gives me a lot of headaches.
So, Makoto is getting sun and destiny magic, allowing him to grind proficiency and add them to his spirit magic repertoire.
I had considered since the old demon lord recognized him that maybe -he- is actually Abel somehow, but even though I foresaw a flung back in time development, I figured his skillset just wouldn’t match…
But if he can gain sun spirit magic? yup, he definitely can cosplay as the light hero.
And I see I’m not the only one that guessed that he’ll use time spirits to warp back either.
maybe the sun and destiny magic affinities will allow him to manipulate spirits perhaps?
he might be able to collect all the spirit weapons and become some sort of spirit god!
My theory. They mentioned the hero’s statue looking different… Makoto’s been petrified in the past… I think Makoto asks a certain vampire for a favor.
Thanks fo the chapter
File 1
Player : Takatsuki Makoto
Time = more than 2 years
Lifespan = probably 10 years or more (it probably get reset at the bare minimum)
Church : None
Goddesses met = 4
Gears : Noah’s dagger
Skills : Rpg players skills ; Thief skills ; Traveler skills ; clear Mind ; Water magic elementary ; Spirit Magic ; Transformation ; Moon Magic : Charm (elementary probably) ; Destiny Magic Elementary ; Sun Magic Elementary
Magic proficiency = 999
Jobs : Guardian knight of the Moon oracle ; state hero of Rozes ; water spirit mage ; adventurer, ; apprentice water mage (waterbending assassin)
Titles : former water spirit king (new), airhead gigolo, Demon lord slayer, shameless pole hero, lover of the great Sage, Quest 100% success rate Makoto, Goblin cleaner
Heroes met = at least 8 ( don’t know how many heroes of earth and destiny countries where in the cathedral)
Heroes friends = 4
Oracles met = at least 6
Oracles friends = 5
Party members = 0
Harem members = Lucy, Aya, Sofia, Furiae (Mary, great Sage, Janet)
(Sakurai, Fuji-yan, Leonard, Geralt, Tony, Takahashi-sensei, Setekh)
People knowing his goddess’identity :
Everyone important from the 6 ally countries
Number of people still allies after knowing his Goddess’ identity = everyone except the former pope
Number of people still allies after knowing his Mission = 5
Fujiwara, Lucy, Aya, Sofia, Furiae
State : sad, resolute, excited
Save
Load
insert disk 2 to start chapter 10
You forgot to put virgin in his status
Don’t need to put the obvious.
huh u know it just occurred to me.
1. every time it looked like he was about to stop being a virgin something coincidentally happened to maintain it.
2. being a virgin is part of what makes his blood so appealing to the sage.
3. he may very well be present for and required to feed Sage(newbie) to get he to join up.
4. the goddess of destiny is supposed to be making sure events occur properly to maintain the resulting timeline.
Conclusion
Ira cursed Makoto to be a virgin for 1000+2ish years at least.
I think that’d be Disk 0
Thanks for the chapter!
Thanks for the chapter…
It’d be funny if he ended up in the temple where he started.
The whole destiny magic and time spirits seem pretty obvious and I think it’s the way of the author of hinting it, but the thing that surprises me more is the sun magic, which even makes me believe that he could possibly even take Abel’s place if he died, which would be crazy poetic and kind of preordained considering Abel’s last words.
I didn’t even read ahead, but it looks like the next arc is still the current arc, so we in it for the long run, this has potential for a lot.
Makoto pretending to be Abel is a bit crazy( I like the idea though), but Abel being obligated to help Makoto, to send him back, should be logical. And it feels like he was either somehow pulled in this magic leaving past too, or being temporary saved by Makoto(Temporary Life grant?) he died after sending off Makoto. And so he disappeared from poor thirsty Anna’s grasp
I got a wild idea
Remember Makoto water lens when fighting Zagan and how Great Sage advises him to not use it too often?
Now that he got sun magic I wonder if he ever gonna use it like a solar powered satellite cannon just like Rimuru’s Megiddo from Tensura?
Or like Hajime’s Hyperion from Arifureta.
Hajime’s Hyperion didn’t use water magic lens as a medium
True, it did use light though.
Thanks a lot for the chapter
You all remember when Makoto told something about having somewhere else to go after the demon king was defeated, and without knowing he was actually quoting the savior? Flag much?
Thanks for all the translating you’ve done so far! a few months ago I had just caught up to Tsuki when I thought “I might as well see what this WM is all about” and here we are now. Excited to see what happens next volume/arc!
“Shut up! Airheaded Goddess!” (Lucy)
HAHAHAHA ! I just noticed, but the litteral translation for airheaded in japanese is Ponkotsu. In other words, Ira was called a Ponkotsu Goddess by Lucy. A fitting title.
[Will you promise Lucy?]
Yes
No
(A choice here, huh…) (Makoto)
Even though there was no reaction when Noah-sama asked me.
It is not about going or not 1,000 years into the past, but whether I return or not, huh…
Interesting. Does it mean that going to the past is not a big deal ? Also, Abel once said “There is someone waiting for me”, so was it Makoto who said those words ?
The reaction of the Great Sage at the question of Makoto. I think that she definitely met him in the past. Why would she have such a big delay in her answer ?
Ira-sama hugged me
Wa?!
The small body of Esther-san hugged me tightly.
[…]
Ira-sama hugged me just like that for a while.
[…]
Ira-sama said in a low voice while still hugging me.
Uhm…can you let go already?
““……””
I can feel cold gazes from my back.
“Come on, Ira, get away.” (Noah)
Noah-sama pulled Ira-sama off.
Ira is too cute ! Looks like Noah was jealous that Ira was so clingy to Makoto.
Not going to the past is not really an option in any case, so no choice.
Not going back, on the other side is. Like “endure 100years of sustaining Destiny(time)+Spirit magic((personal time skip spell)) and leave behind part of your ‘past acquired’ harem” or “end up saving GreatSage-chan in the past, using Beifonz(?)’ Philosopher’s Stone to turn her vampire”.
—-
Don’t think it’s about Noah-san being jelly to Ira. It is more of ” Girl, come on, even if you are losing it stop messing the mood” Girl went a koala-mode in front of Makoto’s girls And whole crowd, while is “hero moment”. Goddess girl at that.
Ira-sama hugged me.
Wa?!
Ira-sama said in a low voice while still hugging me.
Uhm…can you let go already?
““……””
I can feel cold gazes from my back.
Here we goes, Ira-sama flag has been sailed
Alright finally our mc going back to the past to save abel. I’m 100% sure he will meet great sage. Her response when makoto ask her was really suspicious. Also its a bit sad for me to read this. Especially when he parted with lucy. Among his party, she was the one who have strongest faith towards him. She believed him even though the chances of him going back to present is almost zero. All hail the true heroine!
“Lucy J Walker…I have said this many times already, but there’s no method for Takatsuki Makoto to return to the prese—” (Ira)
“Shut up! Airheaded Goddess!” (Lucy)
“Wa?!” (Ira)
Lucy kicks away the words of Ira-sama.
*Also The second person who dare to insult Ira (though it was the truth LOL)
The words used for “airheaded” in japanese is Ponkotsu. A Ponkotsu Goddess indeed. Ira must have taken a great amount of mental damage. Remember that Ira is just acting tough and is mentally weak.
Lucy is the legal wife’ pact owner, well deserved. Even if it’s just a temp one.
Thanks for the chapter 😀
IS it just me or is Makoto becoming more of a chad as time passes :l
I wonder, why furiae always looks scared when the choice text appeared? And the reaction of ira when the choice text appeared seems strange too
I think that they can’t see the choices of RPG skil but rather the change of thread of fate which can only be seen by fate/destiny magic users like Ira and Furi. that is why Furi is always shaken every time RPG skill activates and I think that is why Noah stop Ira from saying what is happening when it activate.
Thanks for the chapter!
Ira-sama is getting more clingy towards Makoto xD
I just wonder, travelling to the past, won’t it changes the future where Makoto would come back? I guess the author covered it up really well by saying Ira-sama would fix the history.
Poor Ira-sama, i pity her xD
Probably ira will go in the past as well because she hope that 1000 year ago the oracole will hopefully alive
Nice farewell chapter, still a lot of questions remain unanswered…
Ira, the Great Sage sama… something is fishy!
And what about those elementary skills? You know he will grind it as he did with water magic, right?
That’s “abel” power in seeding, is it not?
It’s already hinted that she knows him reread the previous chapter
RPG player works for Lucy as always!
Great Sage-sama…definitely suspicious! Hmmm….
Thanks for the chapter!
She only meet abel definitely not makoto (.❛ ᴗ ❛.)
Thanks for the chapter!
Ohhhhh shit!
Noah’s manipulating everything in the palm of her hands. I refrained from commenting last chapter since I wanted to see the very end until Makoto goes back to the past but holy shit, Noah’s really smart and I mean REALLY smart.
Just my speculation but I think this is what Noah planned.
Her plan first starts when she knew that the Great Demon Lord was about to resurrect and intentionally didn’t inform Makoto about it during the time Althena apologized to him about Alex. At the end of that chapter, Makoto mentioned that Noah-sama looked like she wanted to say something but she didn’t. This is because they might have made some tactics to counter the Great Demon Lord’s plan to mess up history if she reminded them. This is important because if they did, Makoto would probably not be sent back to the past since they’ll have predicted or seen the actions of the Great Demon Lord.
Now, witholding that info from Makoto, she knew he was going to be picked because of the conditions needed to send a warrior. Now by sending Makoto, she gains favors from the Holy Gods and gains benefits for her as well. She can now have unlimited followers as well as become a Goddess Church member.
But this is all useless unless she gains her freedom so she has to rely on Makoto. She asks the goddesses to give some skills to Makoto under the pretext of helping him in battles in the past but has a hidden purpose. Most importantly, Makoto needs destiny magic. She INTENTIONALLY descends on her true form to have an excuse to show and use the power of Time Spirits to Makoto. It was a hint on her part on how he can return to the present. If she showed up without her true form, Makoto will be stuck in the past not knowing how to get back. Now, we all know that increasing your proficiency on an element will make you see spirits. Since Destiny Magic controls time and space, Light Spirits if there even are.
End result is Makoto being able to summon Undine since he has achieved 999 proficiency on water magic, see or directly affect the future with destiny magic and possibly see and control Time Spirits, and lastly possibly use sun magic and see and control hypothetical Light Spirits assuming they exist as well.
Now Makoto becomes extremely overpowered and can probably free Noah now too fron the Deep Sea Temple. See where this is going? Noah was manipulating everything so that she could be gain her freedom and move on to helr next plan. This is where Makoto’s three major goals come to place. Defeating the Great Demon Lord, freeing Noah-sama, and taking away the authority of the Holy Gods. Their next move is still debatable for me but yeah that’s it.
Ps. Even Reigokai-sensei is speculating in what happens holy shit.
he should have more than 999 proficiency its just that 999 is visual block (not actual one cause there is no limit for it) that you can see in soul book so no one really knows how strong makoto is now and also it would be more fun to see makoto use sun spirits than time ones… he would be able to cosplay as light hero just by using them and pretend to be abel to kill great demon king… ngl I think that abel is actually pretty weak and will just get carry from makoto
The question is how does she know all of this and since when ?
She’s cunning and smart. My guess is probably something related to her field? We still don’t know what goddess of what she is. Something knowledge related that might be similar to Ira and transcends time.
In the epilogue of the volume 1 of the LN, Noah said to the Titan God Old Man things like “Makoto is the greatest Apostle ever” or “He’s going to turn our world upside down. You’ll see.” It makes me wonder if she knew that Makoto was going to travel to the past from the very beginning (since 1,000 years ago maybe ?).
That might be plus, RPG Player didn’t show any choices for Makoto to go to the past or not. It only showed Lucy’s promise meaning it was probably predetermined or something.
That might be plus, RPG Player didn’t show any choices for Makoto to go to the past or not. It only showed Lucy’s promise meaning it was probably predetermined or something.
probs makoto met her 1000 years in past and she didnt mention it so she knew all along about how strong he will become
I hope he summons another high elemental spirit thing. What were their names again?
Water – Undine, Fire – Salamander, Earth – Gnome and Air – Sylph.
There are several other elements, so those probably have high spirits/spirit weapons as well. Even if they weren’t named at all.
I will confirm only this… Noah is always scheming LOL. There will be surprises. Ira may read fate, but Noah can read Makoto. Make of that what you will.
next chapter he just walks through the front door of the church, calling it now
End of the ark more likely…
Probably, but it would have been funny.
Top 10
Agreed
1. what if he just ended up 1000 yaers ago in his japanese hometown? I think that would make more sense than anywhere in this world where he has been living like a nomad, but for the storytelling it is not in line with what happened at all
2. maktoto will definetly use the time spirits, since the author deliberately showed their existence, to come back, but the battle will be interesting none the less
Chills just by reading it. Thanks
Thanks for the chapter!
It is here bois… makoto got 2 new skills to polish and in old world (1000 years ago) there will be more spirits and goddesses have let him do whatever he wants to save abel so we can expect things like him soloing great demon king to gain prof. in magics
Don’t forget about thousand years ago harem haha
So now he got the ability for beginner level destiny and light magic but he can’t use them with Spirits right? They’re normal beginner level spells unlike his Water Spirit King
he can… even his water magic is just beginner… all he needs is to raise his proficiency high enough to see and be able to use spirits then he will be able to use sun and time spirits at will thanks to his fucking high proficiency in spirit magic
I see. Well also i forgot about magic would be impossible for his 6 mana… How could he do beginner level water magic before with 6 mana honestly…
by using water in surrounding… instead of generating his own he trained by water which extremly reduces mana cost… with light this will be easy just train during day and just like charm he can have destiny all time on with his clear mind so easy
Well, now that he’s no longer he’s no longer Noah’s follower, he can level up his stats now.
Isn’t he already able to level up? It’s just that it makes little difference since his base stats are low. I’m not sure about this but his low stats was a factor on why he was never accepted by any of the countries’ churchs.
Also because his strenght being so low Noah gave him a dagger instead of another weapon because he can’t carry it
The problem is why Eir didn’t give anything to him…..I mean he’s trying to save a Abel If Noah hadn’t interfered Athena wouldn’t have given him her blessing ……. they want him to save Abel without giving him anything lol.
He’s already a beginner-level water mage.
Remember one of the conditions to travel. The choosen needed to be weak and even if Eir did give Makoto Intermediate or even Advanced mahic, he would not be able to use it at all.
Thanks for the chapter.
So uhh, if makoto could also change other things and its favorsble to everybody, then….. Converting Noah to the side of the light is potentially possible.
Ohh the plot is getting interesting with two completely new Magic’s their still elementary but with Makotos resolve I don’t see any problem
I can already see Makoto pulling a doctor strange with his destiny magic
Iblis! I’ve come to bargain!
Now makoto can use time spirit with destiny magic haha
Keep in mind the proficiency requirements. No reason to assume time or light spirits are going to work differently. So grinding is necessary, but this is Makoto we’re talking about. Since he has the skill now, he can grind it. Too bad he didn’t get all the elemental skills.
But there are certain shortcuts that Makoto has used before. For example synchronizing with Lucy – even though normally he can’t use fire at all – he used Fire Spirits. Of course his control wasn’t as good since he’s proficient in water, not fire. So then is there another way to use time spirits? You can speculate from there easily enough.
Let’s address the elephant in the room.
Ira-sama shares her present and past memories???? That one statement alone brings out so many questions.
Why doesn’t she remember Makoto then? How far defines present and past? Is it more of a system where she has memories of her future self, but it is like an archive she has to search manually to get? What kind of restrictions does it have?
The fact that she doesn’t know Makoto in the present must mean a few things. Something happened to her memories.
The biggest possibility I can think of is that Ira reseted her memories to maintain the events of the timeline stable.
The other is that it has to do with Makoto’s RPG Player messing up the timelines in some way that even Ira’s ability is all funky.
Hmm…
No i don’t believe something happened to her memories.It’s about Makoto being the “Irregular” like how Furiae’s future vision changes when Makoto is around and Ira not being able to predict the future of times Makoto interferes past can still change. Meaning the past Ira’s memories that interfered with Makoto can’t reach future Ira because it hasn’t happened in the past yet either.
That’s my guess but it’s confusing haha
If it worked just like normal memory she should know literally everything, and she clearly doesn’t. Maybe she only knows story that’s already ‘written’? As in her past self will know the future only because it already happened to makoto who then came to the past? Or maybe it works just like future sight that can’t see makoto and the snake church clearly.
Or maybe the author just derped giving her an unplanned for power, lul.
Time travel thingies always brought theories and others xD
It could be
1. Ira-sama didn’t remember Makoto at all because she in fact hasn’t meet Makoto up until now and the past history just changed right now, when Makoto and friends transported to the another world
2. Just like your speculation where Ira-sama’s memory got resetted
3. Just like Gladiator02 said
Could be more possibilities, and it should be.
We can’t say for certain except we understand ther author’s way of thinking or we know the end of the story where we finally can make proper conclusion based on the story. The former one is the best way to know how it works though
Author is confusing me too. He gave too many hints about Makoto being the hidden hero party member but now he’s saying past starts changing. So there was another hidden mvp in the past that got forgotten? Or it was Makoto and Goddesses keep lying
Wait or maybe demons can remember the past Makoto interfered in the current timeline. When you think about it only demons mentioned the hidden party member. Demon King Bifros and his blind aide. What if because they were the ones that interfered with the past, they can remember how their plans got crushed by Makoto in the past either?
Just thought about this now and it makes sense to me honestly
As someone who likes time traveling stories, I think that probably means that there might be no paradox yet but there will be one, which is why Makoto “can’t return”. That is, the current timeline’s past wasn’t affected by Makoto but is in the process of being changed by the Great Demon Lord and Makoto. So, even if Makoto returns, he will return to a present that is different from the one he knows. A new timeline, where a Makoto from the present must go to the past in order for the present to exist.
The only way for Makoto to return to the current timeline would be if he is able to revert each and every change in the timeline that he and the GDL cause, that didn’t exist in the original timeline, without anyone, specially Ira, learning about it. Otherwise, it’d be a new timeline again.
And in regards to making that possible, either by reverting the changes or simply making them unknown to everyone (Gods included), it could involve the new skills he got. Remember? Noah used [Time Spirits] and Makoto just got [Destiny Magic]. It could be a possibility since he went back to a time where the influence of the Holy Gods was weaker and the power of the Spirits should be more present.
Well, it’s just a guess though.
I think that Ira and rest of his team from the past somehow changed perceptions of others about events in the past.
1. In this chapter we have some sort of pause before Great Sage answered his question.
2. In chapter where he killed vampir demon lord, he was recognised by him as someone he know from the past.
2,5. Gods can’t meddle with demon minds.
tbh im not going to be surprise if the so called demon lord is actually makoto, what they sealed wasnt the great demon lord, but makoto lmao
Since this is the 9th arc, what was the title?
“Farewell”
@simplethrone is the one who said that the title of the arc was “Farewell” I think.
Yes, It’s Farewell. Or Parting
別れ=wakare= farewell, parting, separation
Well there’s a chance that she’s lying about she doesnt remember makoto. Its not like all the god say is the truth. Or it just you said she erased her own memory, but i think its not like that because there’s no point erasing her own memory since she’s practically not someone who should directly interfene with the world. There was also the foreshadowing when makoto meet biffrons and almost said his name to seketh (CMIIW l forgot this guy name). So it must be just like the others said about makoto being irregular. Remember noah said about makoto that “He’s going to turn our world upside down”? I think this develeopment is already inside noah prediction. Maybe she’s the only one in the world who know makoto better that anyone. Well because the lack of information all we can do is just wait until author give another hint
My Theory
I think Makoto is Abel, thats why destiny magic doesnt see his future, because he already has a predestined future which is going to the past and saving the world. Noel also mentioned this before on the Sun Country Arc, that the saviour Abel mysteriously just dissapeared. I dont know about you but that kinda hits the target for me, that Makoto somehow got back to the present. Also on the Wood Country Arc the demon lord was acting kinda sus when he met Makoto, but later denied it, maybe because he doesnt have the sun blessing yet which Althena gave to him this chapter. As for why Ira didnt say he met makoto of the past… probably the same reason as he is Abel?? idk, but on that conclusion this my theory.
To add something to your theory, Athena said that Ira will do her best to adjust history if Makoto somehow change it, this might imply that people remember Makoto’s face and characteristics differently because the history was adjust by Ira. Abel might be a real person but Makoto might have accidentally taken Abel’s role in the past. It also might mean that this wasn’t the beginning of this paradox, rather it already happened.
I really like speculation like this, it’s really fun to think plot stuff.
Hmm, well it was mentioned several times that Ira was awfully friendly with Makoto, even in their first conversation. People said the same with Makoto and the Great Sage.
So that could be a hint.
There’s another possibility – the time might be more complicated. Consider the very idea that history might get rewritten AND that it can come as a surprise to gods while not being instantenous enough to prevent them from acting… Personally I’d expect time to be layered thing. There’s mortal time – but then you get overlapping layers above it. The rewrite of mortal-time history is happening in the higher level time, so to speak. The past with Makoto time-travelled back has yet to happen – and Ira in the past has future Ira’s memories because the future where Ira sent has already happened and thus Ira – attuned to higher level time – now remembers that already-happened future.
I mean, imagine our Ira as someone who’s reading a book while also being able to influence the story – and now decided to go with a major ‘cheat’ and write Makoto, who she read about later, into part she’s already read. Her past memories include the future NOW, but she didn’t yet know Makto when reading that section previously.
Simpler explanation that also explains why Ira seems airheaded.
Her memory is only nearly perfect, so she has to search through infinite memories to find what she needs to remember, but can remember things closer in time to where she is right now more clearly/easily.
I’m having Rokujuma Blu Knight flashbacks with all of these talking
Like I was saying in the previous chapter, time travel always brings up paradoxes which can’t really be explained logically which is why I am so unhappy with this development…
It is a world of magic. It can explain itself with things outside our logic. It doesn’t have to work with ours.
Saying they are paradoxes or plotholes when not knowing yet is like assuming a person sucks at baseball because you saw a similar boy suck too.
Honestly, unless they are super heavy inconsistencies or botching characters for plot convenience, I don’t really mind the small details as long as the story is fun.
No one is an expert in time traveling in the first place. It is a foreign concept that has way too many variations in different media. Just enjoying the story and saying ‘uuh, Makoto and Abel?! There’s a chance he might meet Cain and an ‘Evil Noah’?!’ or the Great Demon Lord battle in the past?!’ is what I would stick with.
Memory reset or did something that required compensation of some sort like memories for its fuel? Could it be due to the events of the past, Ira develops some grudges with Makoto in the present without any memories? That would explain a number of things.
If Ira’s the one fixing or writing history, I can see why its faulty to begin with lol. That clumsy but adorable effort.
Haha, yeah. Now that you mention it, being born a God must really suck sometimes.
Ira was born as the Destiny Goddess with all the complicated stuff about time. Just thinking about the tangled mess that are the destinies of people, I would go insane.
Im assuming they are using back to the future time travel rules but with delayed effect of the changes, allowing them time to send him back to stop them. Going back and messing with the past alters the timeline and once the changes spread out like a ripple in a pond the changes are set and the new timeline takes over. Ira saw the changes occurring and the ripple spreading out and sent him back before the ripple reached them. She wont be aware of his actions in the past until hes been sent back to do them so her ability wont take effect until hes gone and made his own ripple.
I think it’s a bit of both
Ira might’ve worked to repair the timeline to the original, but some of Makoto’s achievements stays and merged with the original Abel’s legend because of RPG Player abilities
Ahh, i have a theory about this:
What if the timeline of this world is already a fixed timeline and Ira just doesn’t know about it. I mean, maybe history itself is a force here and it fixed itself by using another force from the future to mess with an irrergular that went back time to change the usual course. And it eliminated Makoto out of that timeline and mended history back it’s course(with the RPG player skill’s help) by somehow teleporting him back to the current timeline. So Ira,the only one who governs fate know about the timeline where makoto isn’t teleported to the past but doesn’t know about the fixed timeline caused by history itself.
And another theory about the coffin. Anna might be staying inside and will only awake when makoto comes back.
Could you ban person with nick Nagumo.
He gave spoilers in recent coments.
Ty for the chapter
Thank you for the chapter !
Thanks!
Why didn’t he ask for something more to help him? Like divine weapons or armour? I’d have at least asked Althena to max out my lifespan to 100 so I’d have enough time to think up a way home or to sacrifice for a spirit powerup.
Hes already got a divine weapon far stronger than anything they could provide in his dagger. Agree with the lifespan thing but lets be honest hes gonna be killing a tonne of demons so his lifespan issue should be very quickly resolved.
he need to be ‘weak’ and ‘inconspicuous’ so that the demons doesnt detect him being sent to the past. getting power ups like that will defeat the purpose.
Why would an object of great power traveling through time not be detected, if a person of medium power would be? There’s Noah’s dagger, but I suspect that’s undetectable because it’s instead far too powerful.
There’s nothing he can equip except the dagger because he doesn’t have the required stats for it remember?
Thank you very much for the chapter
Thanks for the chapter
Makoto was given access to (affinity) access by Ira which Ira governs time and space, now with the RPG skills that forces makoto to go back to the present with the promise to lucy. Time travel to the present is possible. Makoto just need to train his destiny magic or find a time spiwto make it happen.
There still some things are suspicious to me. When makoto and noah first seen each other, The RPG skills appeared and say that ” will become her believer? ” but in this case when makoto, it didn’t appear when he was ask if he “will save the world or destroy it? ” probably noah knows something about the hidden effects of the RPG skills or how powerful those choices.
And last when great sage was ask if they met in the past. She didn’t answer immediately, which i conclude that she lied to makoto and makoto is the mysterious member, meant in immortal king. Speaking of lie, noah and athena is hiding something they didn’t stop makoto to mess with past. Which i conclude that makoto do something in past that they keeping it a secret and Noah is not even sad if his follower gies to the past.
Cain – senpai x makoto = how would they end up? with two crazy apostles met, what go wrong?
Makoto has given two skills { sun magic, destiny magic}. And he was send to past where monster and demon are at strongest, time to grin some of exp.
Judging by Ira said that find Her oracle in the past, we would probably see a new heroine? Maybe great – sage? Or maybe Ira? Or who could be? I can’t wait?
My imagination is going wild🤓🤓🤓🤓.
Wait why comment is here? 🤔. I thought it would be in the bottom. 🤔
Holy shit am so excited
Abel is the new heroine prolly..
I think you’re thinking about the time travel incorrectly. We are all capable of traveling through time: in a fixed forward direction at a rate of one second per second. The key to returning is somehow sealing himself so he can awaken after he’s gone back in time.
I think the correction in the distortion of history has actually already taken place, and is the timeline we’re familiar with. The original timeline likely leaks through near the point of return because it absolutely can’t be modified. It doesn’t make sense that the light hero would be downgraded from a savior to a normal hero as an effect of the attempted time-assassination. If those ripples started to spread it would reveal a world of demons, not something so lukewarm. Instead, it seems likely that it was only with Makoto’s aid that the savior managed to be the savior In the first place. Which makes me suspect Makoto is sleeping in the Great Sage’s residence as foreshadowed.
If that’s the case though, idk whether she was lying about not meeting him or if her memories near the time fulcrum were also fixed to the original timeline. I lean to the latter, however, due to her uncharacteristic coldness here. The foundation of their odd closeness was likely the memory of the past, after all.
That’s a nice point of view, bro.
Well, that’s was my speculation so 🤗 still don’t know anything , i need more info. But this just my theory, but with makoto’s way of thinking or do things, was my base on my theory. If he can travel to the past with help of a portal( time travelling gate) , why do the same thing and go to the present? Rather than Freezing himself to wait. Also there’s only a coffin but it didn’t give a new hint if he was sleeping there or someone there? It only represent a coffin nothing else would support a clue if makoto sleeping there, what if it just bed of great sage, cause she a vampire ( Dracula myths reference, 🤔 ) . So makoto was freeze himself and slept there, has a low chances.
But with makoto’s hardcore training with his new power. The Possibility of making a Portal ( time travelling gate) has a high chances of him doing it.
Remember he made a promise that after saving the savior abel and the past is at safe. He would come back {immediately or instantly }, (base on my understanding of the words like his forcing makoto) if my speculation is right. Then after he finish his job he would go back immediately. So I would still believe that makoto would create a gate, that would help him go back to the present {immediately} rather than freezing himself. And of course with the help of time spirits. This made go this speculation cause, noah just show the power of the time spirit ( which made speculate that he showed to makoto, knowing it’s the key going back) I don’t think noah would just forgot, and directly show his appearance and causally turn back time, if she can just erase their memory(well she can manipulate it cause you know after he turn back time using spirits, the people around makoto still remember it🤔🤯) .
So, if there’s a new clue that would support that makoto freeze himself or sleeping there, i can just change my theory, easily so right know I’m just temporarily stick to making a gate with help of time spirits. 😁🙏
When the choices pop up with Lucy’s promise, Furiae is looking scared, so I guess there’s that for RPG player skill flag. My bet that it’s something that’ll allow Makoto to have a path to ascent to godhood along with courting Noah in the process
Thank u always for ur great work…
^^…
bruh
And they pull off a zero escape-esque plotline
DAYUM. and i just finished playing it too
*cue blue bird lamentation ost bgm*
I KNEW IT.
I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN!.
Remember back when that demon lord was revived and morphed? The one with Setekh?
When Makoto entered his mind and he realized he’s revived 1000 years later and said to Makoto “What are YOU doing here?”.
Damn, it was foreshadowed so long ago and I thought I was mistaken since there were so many arcs after it.
THIS IS EXCITING
I was about to just comment this!
I feel sorry for Ira-sama though. We all know that Makoto isn’t going to do the easy route of things and can see all the hassle that Ira will have to do to maintain the timeline correctly.