WM – Chapter 248: Takatsuki Makoto speaks to the Destiny Goddess

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“Takatsuki Makotoooo!!” 

The Destiny Oracle Esther-sama hugged me.

The Oracle-sama was small, but she came at me with quite the momentum, so I was pushed right down to the floor. 

“Good work coming out safely! I was worried you know!” (Esther)

The Oracle-sama patted my head with her small hands while still on top of me. 

“Uhm…you are Ira-sama, right?” (Makoto)

“Fufufu, that’s right. It has been a while, Takatsuki Makoto.” (Ira)

Her stern face until now made a complete turn and Ira-sama answered me with a wide smile.

So she really had already descended, huh.

“What was that cold attitude of before?” (Makoto)

“Eh? I was so happy that I felt like if I didn’t, I would end up giggling.” (Ira)

That was because she was keeping herself from letting it out?! 

I was worried here thinking I made her angry in some way. 

“But I was relieved too. I have no acquaintances here after all.” (Makoto)

“…We have put you in quite the tough spot, haven’t we, Takatsuki Makoto…” (Ira)

Ira-sama hugged my head tightly. 

Her small breasts were pressing on my face.

It is not soft like Noah-sama and Eir-sama.

“I will also forgive that rude statement of yours.” (Ira)

“…I am sorry.” (Makoto)

It has been a while since my mind has been read.

“I am surprised you could tell that we were here.” (Makoto)

“I couldn’t tell when it came to you.” (Ira)

“Eh?” (Makoto)

“Cause you are not a believer of us Holy Gods, right? That’s why I can’t see your future. But Hero Abel is a different story. He is the Hero of the Sun Goddess and also her Oracle. That’s why I could tell with my Clairvoyance that he would be coming to the Moon Country. But in the actual history, Hero Abel was supposed to have come to the Moon Country at a much later time, so I assumed you must have been involved, Takatsuki Makoto.” (Ira)

I see… But…

“In that case, you could have contacted us sooner…” (Makoto)

A complaint ended up coming from my mouth.

“Don’t ask for the unreasonable here… In this era, I have almost no believers. Even so, I could tell that Hero Abel was coming to the Moon Country’s capital, so I was waiting for you in hiding so as to not get discovered, you know? I was walking a tightrope just by making a base here.” (Ira)

“That’s…thank you very much.” (Makoto)

I was ashamed of my own words. 

I see. We are right in the middle of enemy territory. 

Just the fact of her waiting for us here is worthy of gratitude.

“As long as you get it.” (Ira)

“For now, can you please stand?” (Makoto)

Right now I am still on the floor with Ira-sama on top of me. 

If Momo were to see this, who knows what she would say. 

“Oh my, that’s right.” (Ira)

When I say this, Ira-sama separated from me as if she had noticed just now.

I once again look at Ira-sama who has descended on the petite body of her Oracle.

There’s a lot of things I want to talk about, but…

“By the way…Ira-sama, you have the memories of 1,000 years in the future, right?” (Makoto)

“That’s right. I know about you being the Apostle of Noah and the fact that you are the Hero of the Water Country of Rozes.” (Ira)

That’s reassuring.

At that moment, one question surfaced in my mind.

“When did we meet for the first time, Ira-sama? Could it be that you knew about me before having met in the future at Highland?” (Makoto)

I remember the time when I first met Ira-sama who had descended on Esther-san.

She didn’t look like she was acquainted with me then…

“Aah…you are worried about the time paradoxes, huh. That’s not it. Our first meeting was in the Highland Castle 1,000 years in the future. Understand it like that. I can share my past and future memories, but I am simply peeking at the countless possibilities of the future. And now by sending you to the past, the actual history and the changed history are mixing. The only one who can observe all history within the Goddesses is me, the Destiny Goddess. There’s a lot of futures, and the past is not certain; the flow of time in the world is vague.” (Ira)

“I-I see.” (Makoto)

I don’t get it.

“I already told you, right? You don’t have to worry about that. That’s my job as the Destiny Goddess.” (Ira)

I decide to just accept the words of the Goddess.

Right, what I need to concentrate on is on saving the world together with Hero Abel.

At that moment, Ira-sama must have noticed something, she looked at me curiously. 

“Takatsuki Makoto…the letters of your Status are bugged.” (Ira)

“Status?” (Makoto)

“There’s parts here and there that can’t be read… Is it because I used Time Warp?” (Ira)

“Does that…have any bad effects on my body?” (Makoto)

I hurriedly check my Soul Book.

Don’t see anything weird on my side.

“Right… If I had to say anything about it, it would be that your information literally can’t be read even if the Appraisal Skill is used. Even if it is used, it will show as the Appraisal being blocked.” (Ira)

“Then, there’s no real problem.” (Makoto)

I can confirm it myself with the Soul Book after all. 

Or more like, I have only been looking at my Proficiency as of late. 

Hm? In that case, there’s something strange. 

“Wait… Mel-san and Abel saw my private information with their Appraisal though…” (Makoto)

“Private?” (Ira)

“No, uhm…the fact that I don’t have experience with a woman…” (Makoto)

I was embarrassed not that long ago.

Ira-sama heard this and snorted. 

“That part isn’t bugged. It is clearly displayed as 0 people, Virgin-kun.” (Ira)

“Can you please not state it plainly every time?!” (Makoto)

“You, even though you had that many lovers 1,000 years in the future… What were you doing? An herbivore isn’t exactly cool or anything, you know?” (Ira)

“…”

I was training the whole time and missed the timings.

Who would have known that I would suddenly be thrown into the past?! 

Ira-sama must have read my mind, she got a bit gentler. 

“Momo-chan seemed to like you, you know?” (Ira)

“I am not a lolicon.” (Makoto)

“You really get bothered by the smallest details.” (Ira)

“Age isn’t a small thing!” (Makoto)

What are we talking about here? 

We are derailing to the stratosphere here.

“Going back to the main topic. What should we be doing from now on?” (Makoto)

“Yeah, let’s return to the main topic. Thanks to you, Hero Abel is still alive. With this, we can avoid the future of being defeated by the Great Demon Lord. What’s left is the timing to attack, but…there’s already been a lot of changes in history, so the original history is not reliable anymore…” (Ira)

“Really?” (Makoto)

I take out the picture book of The Legend of Hero Abel.

I flip the pages and skim through it. 

“Uhm…is it about the timing to defeat the Immortal King?” (Makoto)

“In reality, the Immortal King should have already been defeated.” (Ira)

“I noticed that. That’s why I thought it would be best to defeat him as soon as possible…” (Makoto)

“And your comrades stopped you, right? I peeked at the memories of Hero Abel. But that’s the correct choice.” (Ira)

“Really?” (Makoto)

“How was the Immortal King defeated in the original history?” (Ira)

Being asked this, I read the picture book.

–Savior Abel joined forces with many Heroes to defeat the Immortal King.

But the sacrifices were big.

His mentor the Fire Hero Olga, the Earth Hero, the Wood Hero, the Iron Hero, and the brave warriors of the forest…not one of them returned. 

Hero Abel who survived the life or death struggle against the Demon Lord, the White Sage, and the Magic Archer Johnny had to hide themselves in Laberintos in order to avoid the pursuit of the Black Knight Cain.

The legendary Holy Dragon was at the depths of Laberintos…

“This picture book isn’t too detailed. There’s no detailed explanation…” (Makoto)

“What are you talking about? The difference is written clearly.” (Ira)

“Really?” (Makoto)

I tilted my head. 

The biggest difference is that the Immortal King has not been defeated.

On the other hand, the Earth Hero-san and the Wood Hero-san are still alive. 

That’s why, in terms of differences, it would be the fact that the Fire Hero Olga-san has died but the Immortal King has not been defeated yet.

I thought that I should be the one representing here. 

“Listen here. In the original history, at this point in time, every Hero aside from Abel, and all the combatants of Laberintos aside from Johnny have been wiped out -by the hands of Demon Lord Cain, that is.” (Ira)

“Eh?” (Makoto)

“Not only that. All the Ancient Dragons of Laberintos aside from the White Dragon were killed by Cain. That’s the original history.” (Ira)

“…”

The faces of the Heroes and the Lucy-looking elf in Laberintos, as well as the Ancient Dragons, surfaced in my mind.

They originally…died?

But they are alive in the current time.

In that case, history certainly has changed quite a lot.

But…

“The situation has gotten better…right?” (Makoto)

The Heroes are a matter of course, but there’s also the beastkin and elves that Johnny-san leads; they were all strong fighters. 

It goes without saying for the Ancient Dragons.

That’s why the current situation should have improved for the better.

…Why is she making that face?

“Uhm…Hero Abel, the Sage-chan, Johnny, and the White Dragon had a motive to defeat the Great Demon Lord… Their revenge for the deaths of their families…” (Ira)

“…Revenge?!” (Makoto)

I ended up shouting out loud. 

The legendary party was that bloodthirsty?! 

“That’s right. The grudge of having his parent figure -the Fire Hero- killed, the grudge of having her mother eaten in front of her eyes, the grudge of having his family he led be killed, the grudge of having her family of Ancient Dragons killed… That connected to them defeating the Great Demon Lord…” (Ira)

The Destiny Goddess Ira-sama peeked at me. 

“Could it be that…saving them…was a bad thing?” (Makoto)

“That’s not it! I also think it is better for everyone to be alive! …But you see…at the time when I touched them and confirmed their memories…” (Ira)

“Confirmed their memories…” (Makoto)

“They are feeling a lot more leisure than in the original history… It is like they are lacking drive…” (Ira)

“…Will that be okay?” (Makoto)

I am suddenly feeling uneasy.

“I-It is okay! I have an idea, so leave it to me!” (Ira)

Ira-sama pushes her chest out proudly. 

Feeling uneasy part 2…

“Why?!” (Ira)

“You messed up a lot of times before…” (Makoto)

“Ugh… I won’t mess up again!” (Ira)

“Is there no hidden child from the God King-sama?” (Makoto)

“I did try looking, but…there was none in this era.” (Ira)

Looks like she did try searching.

None, huh.

Too bad.

Well, it would just be troubling to have a guy like Alex showing up though.

“So you wanted to tell me that their individual stories have changed?” (Makoto)

“That’s right. That was part of it. I can’t have other people hear about the changes of history after all.” (Ira)

Well, yeah.

“By the way, is it better not to tell them that I have come from the future? I am currently keeping it a secret.” (Makoto)

“Seems so. I think it is okay to tell them that you are from the future, but…the fact that you are a believer of the same God as Cain should be kept a secret from Hero Abel. Abel has quite the grudge on the killer of his parent figure after all.” (Ira)

“…I will keep it a secret.” (Makoto)

I currently have a good relationship with Hero Abel.

There’s no need to create a crack in there myself.

“Well, all this aside, I wanted to praise you. You did well, Takatsuki Makoto.” (Ira)

That smile of hers was like that of a Goddess…right, she is one.

“I will continue doing my best.” (Makoto)

“Don’t get too impatient, okay? Your comrades are worrying about you. By the way, do you have something you want?” (Ira)

“Something I want?” (Makoto)

“Right. My power is currently low, so I can’t do anything impressive, but…we are pushing so much on you. I want to fulfill whatever it is you want if it is within my power.” (Ira)

“…Anything?” (Makoto)

You said anything just now, right?

You did, right?

“N-No…I am the youngest child of the Goddesses, so I am weak, okay? Anything too big would be a bit…” (Ira)

She must have read my mind, she took a step back.

Looks like any unreasonable request is not good.

Then…what to do?

I placed a hand on my mouth and pondered for a bit.

And then, I thought of something.

“Can I…meet Noah-sama?” (Makoto)

Those words came out unconsciously from my mouth.

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190 thoughts on “WM – Chapter 248: Takatsuki Makoto speaks to the Destiny Goddess”

  3. Re-reading this… man! What happened! Why is Ira so cute! Why are those two’s interactions so cute!

  4. I don’t think meeting the old goddess Noah at this point would be a good idea considering she is busy helping the demons?
    Unless Makoto is going to warn her about the demon lord betraying her?
    Or will he cause the betrayal?
    Time twists are a pain to figure out…lol

  7. That is super sus. His status is bugged and can’t be seen in certain parts? Meaning the same as his dagger originally and that star core thing from back in the first Arc with the Giant God guy?

  10. Thanks for the chapter and thanks to the sponsors! ^^
    So Ira was relieved and grateful in the end, let’s hope she will tell him about her plan in order to give him the opportunity to defuse a potential bomb. x)
    And he really miss his goddess.
    Let’s wait and see what’s in store in the next chapter.

  13. Thanks for the chapter. This is why I feel iffy whenever time travel is introduced in a story, since it always makes things convoluted. Let’s hope the author isn’t going to write himself in a corner with this. Still, the interactions between Ira and Makoto are amusing as always.

  17. Thanks for everything Reigo. Your work is superb as always.

    On a side note is there any way to contact you? I could do with asking you something if possible, please. Many thanks.

  21. hmm, so originally there is no Paradox.
    so Makoto whenever in future or past Momo will just fall for him.

    so there is a chance they can neutralize Cain from war, making Killing Iblis Easier

  24. So there have been major changes to history. Everyone was supposed to have been killed by Cain and that was what would have bonded the hero party together in a quest for vengeance against Iblis. Since almost nobody has died, they don’t really have a drive to fight Iblis. Makoto really should just tell them he’s from the future because maybe that might give them the drive to take on Iblis if they know that in the original history they defeat Iblis but that Iblis then resurrects in Makoto’s era and is trying to change history so that they never get beaten in the first place. That would give them an actual goal to work towards. Right now they don’t have much personal stakes in Iblis’ defeat and are only thinking of doing it because Makoto wants to.

    On another note, shouldn’t Makoto ask if the goddesses always knew that Abel was Anna?

  27. I was hoping some questions would get answered in this chapter, so I’m glad she explained things. Though if there really was an ‘original history’ that being sublimated into the ‘changed history’, then what about Momo? After all, it seems almost certain from the way she acted and treated him that she knew about Makoto in advance. How would she have memories of the changed history before the change happened? Is Ira going to do something? It’s quite curious. Still trying to figure it out. Unless she’s lying and it actually did all happen this way originally and doesn’t want him to get complacent and think he’s already won? She might want him to stop rushing things. Or she might even believe what she’s saying and some kind of dvine seal was placed on the memories of the goddesses to make them think everything happened the way it did in the stories too keep the plot on target when Makoto first gets summoned?
    Well, it’s nice to see a familiar face.

    Thanks for the translation!

  28. In the end, Noah is his greatest support, isn’t it? Though if he can persuade her that the Devils will betray her and she can order Cain to rebel, that would be helpful.

    Hee~ Ira became quite dere here. It makes sense, if you think about it. She went crazy with her interference in the present time because she felt regret for the losses taken in this era, and Takki’s already overturned a whole ton of that.
    As a consequence, the fated winners don’t have that fire lit under their ass, but surely we can work something out with that.

    You know, it’s occurred to me that even if Takki was in the past from the start, the gods probably wouldn’t know about him due to his unreadable nature. It continues to be hard to judge what things were originally like, but it sure sounds like this is an all-new timeline if some people who were meant to die survived.
    Maybe Lucy’s great-aunt is gonna pop into existence at some point and share some experiences on her boyfriend.

  30. I wonder how long this time travel arc is gonna go for.
    by Makoto’s personality, he’d definitely want to meet the great demon king..
    there also seems to be quite a lot of importance to the info here since hero abel and saint anna being the same person means someone taking over abel persona in the demon king fight. there’s also the hole in the history Ira knew of the revenge plot of the legendary party and the author did put out that Momo’s first meeting with Makoto was under the impression that Momo did know Makoto.
    unless the author messed up with that part, which seems unlikely since the part histories mixing together had been added into the mix.

  31. To be frank, I’ve been trying to get this for a why.
    I really thought this was on a “time loop” setting, where the world Makoto lives is a direct consequence of him traveling to the past to fix what the demons (who are messing with time) are doing.
    However, now that we now the past is changing, that means 1) he never went back to the past, or 2) a third party is changing even how both the demons and him are acting.
    Makoto’s interactions with Sekath, was it?, Bifrons, Momo, and even the Ice Coffin aren’t actual evidence, but is to hard to believe is just red herring; in the other hand, he would never have gone to the past if the demons hadn’t acted first, so maybe somebody else is really changing the past aside from them, maybe to break the loop?, who knows.

  32. The tsundere type Ira at the beginning and imouto type Ira as of current is very different in behavioral gap.
    As expected of Woman Hero, no… no. Water Hero….

  34. Thanks for the chapter ~

    An explanation on branching timelines, eh…

    Ira straying Makoto with the perception that he “changed” the timeline by doing his way (which is a good job for Ira) when we have like multitude of evidences pointing out on the “it’s all his doing 1000 years ago” plot is quite baffling. It makes no sense.

  36. “They originally…died?”
    “But they are alive in the current time.”
    I’m going to need to take advanced courses in semaphore to interpret this flag.

  37. Ira has the best compatibility with Makoto… in terms of comedy potential. This is what happens when your skill makes you a natural straight man I guess.

  38. And here it is! All you people spouting ‘Abel wasn’t the real hero, he was just used as a scapegoat so paradoxes don’t happen’ can see it written in full.
    Abel was a hero who butchered demon lords and their god in cold blood. Whether this is the true history that effected the world to the present is a whole other can of worms, but now people have no right to diss my homeboy (and yes I do mean boy since abel chose to live as ‘Abel’ and not ‘Anna’ in the vengeance timeline) with talk of him being a leech and whatnot.

  45. All this means that Makoto can woo as many as Johnny’s daugthers as he wants since they are suposed to be dead anyways, nice

      1. Thats east, just get a way to take the waifus to the present, even if they stay there would be a 2 generation gap between any of them and Lucy at worst

  46. This time travel business is a bit confusing. I assumed it was a “stable time loop” where any changes he has already been included in the future. However, it sounds like there were actually dramatic changes.

    Especially considering how there were people in the future that already know Makoko and according to the side stories, all the girls seem to be moving based on an unchanged timeline.

    > “You, even though you had that many lovers 1,000 years in the future… What were you doing? An herbivore isn’t exactly cool or anything, you know?” (Ira)
    > “…”
    > I was training the whole time and missed the timings.
    > Who would have known that I would suddenly be thrown into the past?!
    > Ira-sama must have read my mind, she got a bit gentler.

    LOL. He actually is bothered by it.

    > “Listen here. In the original history, at this point in time, every Hero aside from Abel, and all the combatants of Laberintos aside from Johnny have been wiped out -by the hands of Demon Lord Cain, that is.” (Ira)

    Oh damn. I guess that does make sense though.

    > You said anything just now, right?
    > You did, right?
    > “N-No…I am the youngest child of the Goddesses, so I am weak, okay? Anything too big would be a bit…” (Ira)
    > She must have read my mind, she took a step back.

    What happened to not being a lolicon Makoto??

    But huh, Ira is actually kid as opposed to just looking like a loli. That does make to rethink all her actions until now.

  47. I know he said he’d do his best to return to the future, but changing the future to an unrecognizable degree doesn’t seem like it’d help in the slightest.
    Might even cause a lot of relationship changes.
    Like, he already saved all of Johnny’s family, which means even bigger proliferation, and unintended definitely more people related to each other because of the Johnny genes.

    1. The Goddesses said not to worry about that. Ira will probably adjust the history to match that of present so that it won’t change the future of the past timeline.

        1. This is probably why there are inconsistencies on the history IF it turned out the timeline was repeating itself.

  48. “I am not a lolicon.” (Makoto)
    HA
    Thank you Makoto T^T
    Thanks for the chapter, and all the ones recently 😀

  49. Thanks for the chapter~!

    Alright, now that there’s an official statements from Ira, I can stop pretending and talked a bit.
    ]”There’s a lot of futures, and the past is not certain; the flow of time in the world is vague.”]
    In other words, in this story, time is fluid. To be honest this sounds like author trying to avoid inconsistency and plot holes if it appears later, but let’s go with it.

    Theorizing time! So the “actual” past definitely existed, and the coming of Makoto and demon agents (or knowledge) indeed changes the past.

    I’m still holding to the theory that if time were indeed fluid, [RPG Player] skill will be the one who solidifies it, making permanent change in the timeline. Therefore, actual/original history of the hero Abel maybe doesn’t lead to the present timeline where Makoto got summoned, but the changed timeline does. Just like branching flowchart path if you ever played JRPG or Visual Novel.

    [Right now I am still on the floor with Ira-sama on top of me. If Momo were to see this, who knows what she would say. ]
    Ira is a little bit aggressive aren’t she?

    [“Momo-chan seemed to like you, you know?” (Ira)
    “I am not a lolicon.” (Makoto)
    “You really get bothered by the smallest details.” (Ira)
    “Age isn’t a small thing!” (Makoto)]
    Now Makoto, have you ever seen the video from Shia Labeouf?
    Just Do It!

    ]They are feeling a lot more leisure than in the original history… It is like they are lacking drive…” (Ira)
    “…Will that be okay?” (Makoto)
    I am suddenly feeling uneasy.
    “I-It is okay! I have an idea, so leave it to me!” (Ira)
    Ira-sama pushes her chest out proudly.
    Feeling uneasy part 2…
    “Why?!” (Ira)]
    Lul, as expected Makoto felt a bit uneasy for the Divine Disappointment.

    [“…Anything?” (Makoto)
    You said anything just now, right?
    You did, right?
    “N-No…I am the youngest child of the Goddesses, so I am weak, okay? Anything too big would be a bit…” (Ira)]
    She remembers the time she promised Makoto to ask for anything but weren’t capable to huh?

    [“Can I…meet Noah-sama?” (Makoto)
    Those words came out unconsciously from my mouth.]
    D’aaawww, Makoto must’ve missed her so much.

    1. RPG Player would be so OP then. Facepalm on those who said that it was useless when compared to Sa-san’s or Fuji-yan’s player skill. If it makes someone immune to precognition even for Goddesses, that’s pretty damn OP for me. It begs the question on who made the skill now to me.

      1. I mean, if it were so, it definitely match the theme too, making flowchart choice progression like dialogue choice in RPG

        Also, I’m suspicious with all of the player skills. All of them seems to have part of divine abilities/characteristic (body/aura for Sa-san, mind reading for Fuji-yan)

        As for the one who made it, maybe Noah had a hand in it? Her retconned dialogue in LN seems like she trust Makoto more than in the WN. Either that, or the world system is independent of and actually alive and making the skills, or the skills made from an accident. The skills going far beyond the capability it’s supposed to is also a choice.

        1. Would she create a skill which would make a person immune to charm, even hers? There’s also the fact that RPG player seem to affect fate itself which makes it easy to avoid or create new futures. That’s pretty OP for an imprisoned Goddess to make. It is possible that she did help create it but my suspicions lie on Naia or maybe even other Titan Gods.

          1. That’s why I said only “a hand” implying that she only helps, not entirely by her alone.

            About Naia though…….makes me remembers one important thing. the moon acted as a gate to other worlds right? How about different pantheon of gods?

          2. That is true. We might see more pantheons after Noah is released and if she hypothetically declares war on Jupiter. Makoto needs to reach God-rank level mage or at least become a God himself to be able to help Noah in his mission. Spirit King transformation is banned and not enough to kill fully fledged Goddesses. Meeting other Gods is almost certain at that point.

  51. If she can observe the future she can rewind the clock until she get the result she wanted.

    I watched it in “Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai”.

    The time keep repeating.

    1. She probably can’t. Remember that she said sending someone with powerful skills may alert the Devils? Repeated actions like that and they might notice causing another Divine Realm war.

  54. Ira-sama hugged my head tightly.
    Her small breasts were pressing on my face.
    It is not soft like Noah-sama and Eir-sama.
    “I will also forgive that rude statement of yours.” (Ira)
    “…I am sorry.” (Makoto).

    Esther is is still small even though she’s supposed to be in her late teens compared to the future Esther that is younger. I can see why Janet thought these two were flirting in their own world together.

    That explanation is a tad bit too convenient like Ira answered the question, but at the same time didn’t. It doesn’t explain how Momo from the future probably lied about meeting Makoto in the past. Makoto can now drag the legendary party to fight Iblis with blackmail and love if they lack motivation. 😀

    1. First, Future Ester and Past Ester are different people… maybe future Ester is a descendant named for her ancestor and maybe not. But there is no reason they’d have the same age per say. Just like Abel’s (dead) teacher was named Olga – the Fire Country’s hero in the future is named Olga. And then Ira is merely descending in the body of both girls named Ester.

      As for Momo likely lying, my theory is the changes rippling through time. That the first time Makoto met her (from his perspective at least), she had no memory of Makoto. But after that, she seemed to favor him way too much… makes me think she remembered him and knew he’d eventually go to the past. But she said nothing – probably under orders to hide it.

      And I think the changing statues among other things are clues/signs (that Ira missed) of the changing reality rippling in. Something I think she might have noticed sooner had she not spent all her time descended. But Makoto alone wasn’t affected by the changes. Because his strings of fate stretched to the the past? RPG Player? I’m not sure. But I’m sure there was a decent bit of foreshadowing in the story.

      1. Yeah these two Esther’s are likely different people. I only meant that their genes are not kind toward the curvy department down the line. Side effect of being Ira’s oracle? 😀

        I agree with you there. The time paradox does not really explain or solve the Abel and Anna being the same person. I doubt whether Ira could see Makoto’s fate if he’s one of their believers. One of the reasons why Furiae made Makoto her guardian knight was to see if she could see his fate, but alas RPG prevailed and she still could not see it. Ira would not be able to see it either, but both Furiae and Ira can see the fates of people around Makoto.

  55. Thanks for the chapter!

    Regarding the status which is kind of bugged… there’s a ‘lot’ of possibilities.
    Not mentioning which ones not mentioned in the chapter, might be some spoiler so ‘pfft’. (I didn’t read ahead.)
    -The mentioned ones which are, Noah getting involved or an effect of the time-leap.
    -Or something we’ve missed and other things which we still haven’t thought about.

  57. Thank you kami-sama.

    Well seems next chap will be just as interesting. Soooo it looks like the flow of time is lucid here. That means it’s perfectly fine to turn the tirncoat oracle and save all(most of) the devilkin.

  60. The future is changing at an alarming rate that I’m worried for the future. If johnny’s family is originally killed, then none of the current family is Lucy’s great grandma… what if Johnny doesn’t get more harem members? What will happen to Lucy? *internal screaming*

    1. Wolt, the grandfather of Lucy and the son of Johnny is very old, so I suppose that Wolt was conceived a long time after the Great Demon Lord was defeated. Wolt is probably one of the youngest children of Johnny if not the youngest.

      1. Ahh, so the safety of the current elf family does not have an immediate effect on wether Lucy is born or not. That gives me peace of mind thanks 😅

      2. Now I think it, yeah probably okay. But it’ll be awkward in the future if makoto strolling in the city and met his descendants… 😂 😂 😂 😂

  61. Feeling uneasy part 2. I loved this lol! I love Makoto’s interactions with Ira shes definatly gonna join them on their journey. Well now that Ira herself said it’s fine to tell them I bet hes just gonna drop that info casually while chatting and stun everyone. So with this bit of clarification from Ira about the original history we now know why the dragons are missing and that Makoto’s actions in the past aren’t set in stone, theres still something up in regards to Bifron and Momo remembering Makoto from the original history but I’ll wait and see what else the author has in store. Hmm if Makoto meets Noah what’s gonna happen, she shouldn’t know him but she might recognize her divine mark on him as well as the soul thing she used to seal his spirit king transformation

  62. “What was that cold attitude of before?” (Makoto)

    “Eh? I was so happy that I felt like if I didn’t, I would end up giggling.” (Ira)

    That’s it!! That’s how you always had acted, Ira-chan!! Now continue been honest like that!!

    And the change in story seems really great, there are still confusion in my mind as how Momo-chan knowed Makoto and all that, but well, the story so far hadn’t been much complex and detailed, so I’m gonna let pass the time paradox and so thinking that is fantasy and end.

    1. It seems that while its almost confirmed Makoto went to the past before based on Momo and Bifrons reactions, from what Ira has told us theres some sort of difference between original time travel Makoto and current Makoto. So the question is what’s the reason for this difference as it currently looks like Makoto going to the past is set but his actions in said past are not, the author is still hiding something from us

    2. Unlike Noah or Eir, Ira isn’t shady or suspicious, so you can let your guard down with her. Moreover, she is really kind and cute. The only thing bad about her is her clumsiness, but at least you can be sure that she doesn’t have any ulterior motives when she shows you kindness. I definitely prefer Ira over Noah.

    3. It could be as simple as Makoto arrive being to a later date, like he arrived after Cain went into a killingspree

      2. A group of Avengers? They would Accept any helo, plus It really is off how did Momo be part of the group without Makoto’s dagger cutting the Red string of fate since otherwise Bifrons could’ve used Momo against them anytime

    1. Well…damn, the eace race for the first really is tough. xD

      I don’t know, I had a bad feeling with this one. I mean, Noah didn’t know anything about Makoto, right?

      1. Perhaps Ira-sama could bribe with the past Noah-sama about it. They are Goddesses after all, they should have some kind of way to share memories.

          1. Imagine if she read it, know the future, and suddenly ditch Cain and switch to Makoto to escape punishment, like, to amend her mistake for having Cain as believer? If it is, poor Cain… 😶

  67. She didn’t look like she was acquainted with me then…

    “Aah…you are worried about the time paradoxes, huh. That’s not it. Our first meeting was in the Highland Castle 1,000 years in the future. Understand it like that. I can share my past and future memories, but I am simply peeking at the countless possibilities of the future. And now by sending you to the past, the actual history and the changed history are mixing. The only one who can observe all history within the Goddesses is me, the Destiny Goddess. There’s a lot of futures, and the past is not certain; the flow of time in the world is vague.” (Ira)

    “I-I see.” (Makoto)

    I don’t get it.

    “I already told you, right? You don’t have to worry about that. That’s my job as the Destiny Goddess.” (Ira)

    Time paradox system doesn’t makes much difference in this isekai huh… At least this explains how mighty the destiny goddess power that time paradox doesn’t apply in her and the past and future Ira can share their memories .

    1. Then back then in the present the Great Sage Momo purely has interest towards Makoto, and not because she is having a memories of her and Makoto being really close in the past. But well, then i don’t know why else the Author would points out that there’s a coffin in Momo’s house that some of us suspected as where Makoto from the past is waiting to be awaken again.

      1. Yeah that’s kinda piqued my interest too cause the Great sage Momo seems to be too attached it’s like Makoto has been into the past but different history than the one they are right now. (・・)

        1. I suspect that the present was already altered when Makoto came to the isekai. Else, it wouldn’t make sense why Momo was so attached to Makoto, why Bifrons was shocked when he saw him and why Momo knew about his RPG Player skill.

      2. I’m pretty sure Momo did meet him in the past but it seems theres a difference here somewhere as Ira has confirmed that history has already greatly changed, dont forget we had a time travel hint from when Makoto met Bifrons as well so theres still something we are missing

      3. Ira might as well alter her own memories later to preserve the flow of history so no, say, Eir come to know of this and try to snatch a capable believer. Or this can be the world’s natural defense against paradoxes, like no observers (people who remember before it happened) means nothing happened.

      4. Could it be that previously he had gone to the past but only met the History Gang (that is what I am calling them to differentiate them from the merry band of heretics) much later on? You know how in the picture book it says they only got stronger half way through the story, could THAT have been when Takki-dono showed up?

        …but then how did Bifrons recognise him?

        Or could it be that history never really changed and only people’s perceptions of history? Remember Ira says she can only see the possibilities of history. Perhaps what she saw before, and took to be the real history, was what was most likely to have happened if Takki-Dono hadn’t shown up at that time rather than the actual TRUE history. Bear in mind history changing is only valid if we assume that what is described before DID actually happen as described, who is to say it did?

        Remember, Ira is the Divine Disappointment. She may well not even understand her power properly (wouldn’t put it past her) and doesn’t realise that Takki-Dono’s future lies in the past, therefore because his future is there nothing can be seen properly. And due to his (future) direct involvement in the past neither she nor any other God could actually see what would happen at the time. Plus do bear in mind that currently the Goddess don’t really know what is happening on the planet due to not having believers so they aren’t sure what is happening. I highly suspect that they use Ira’s clairvoyance to peek at the past, and what she saw in the past was what would have happened if Takki-dono wasn’t there. But he was.

        …if that rambling half baked idea makes sense

      5. About the great sage: I’m thinking maybe there is something related to the fact that she has destiny magic, even if she is not good with it, plus the fact that she drinks and drank his blood?
        Because to me it is obvious that she remembers him form 1000 years in the past.
        And what about her being saved by Abel in the “original” time-line? He wasn’t even near there…
        So, yeah, there is something amiss

    2. To be frank, I’ve been trying to get this for a why.
      I really thought this was on a “time loop” setting, where the world Makoto lives is a direct consequence of him traveling to the past to fix what the demons (who are messing with time) are doing.
      However, now that we now the past is changing, that means 1) he never went back to the past, or 2) a third party is changing even how both the demons and him are acting.
      Makoto’s interactions with Sekath, was it?, Bifrons, Momo, and even the Ice Coffin aren’t actual evidence, but is to hard to believe is just red herring; in the other hand, he would never have gone to the past if the demons hadn’t acted first, so maybe somebody else is really changing the past aside from them, maybe to break the loop?, who knows.

      2. That’s…true. There isn’t an impetus to go back to the past to change things without the demon’s attempt, but the jump we see as a result of that is clearly different from the historical timeline now that Ira has confirmed it.

        ……..Oooh.
        Perhaps, there will be two trips to the past? The one we’re seeing now is caused by the demons, and another that would’ve happened a bit further down the line even without demon intervention. It wouldn’t be until after everything’s gone down and the future got bad. Doesn’t explain how Bifrons recognizes Takki, but…

  68. Thanks for the chapter! Now that’s the loyal believer of Noah-sama! Asking to meet her first when offered anything.

    “That’s right. The grudge of having his parent figure -the Fire Hero- killed, the grudge of having her mother eaten in front of her eyes, the grudge of having his family he led be killed, the grudge of having her family of Ancient Dragons killed… That connected to them defeating the Great Demon Lord…” (Ira)

    Oh, so when Makoto gets back to the present, there’s a chance we would see a change of attitude on Great Sage Momo compared to the time before Makoto time travelled, then? Would like to see how much she would changes

    Ah, but now they are lacking battle spirit. Isn’t that bad then? I wonder how would Makoto overcome this. The last time he faced off a Demon Lord, he struggles a lot that he needs the help from Great Sage Momo and Sakurai. I don’t think he could easily do it the same like he faced off Bifrons back then in the wood country

      1. Well, their journey of revenge changed the world so much that it changed the way how human lives so it can’t be helped that it is written and described as kind of Holy War or something like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      3. Everyone needs a reason to fight good or bad, remember the history is always written by the winner and they always will praise how it was done.

    2. Wait, there is something bothering me. What will happen to the people who were supposed to be killed but were saved by Makoto ? If Ira is fixing history, she will have to “kill” them, right ?

      1. Who knows? Maybe it will do something similar to Fate , having them still die even though the events were changed, but from different causes.

      2. They might pull a steins gate where it only needs to seem like they died from the perspective of history, after all If they decide to leave and live somewhere quite and secluded then it won’t be that hard to make it seem like they perished so long as no one goes looking for the “dead” heros and their families

          1. I wonder how much of history will seem the “same” and what kind of subtle and not so subtle changes we’ll see when Makoto gets back

      3. It happened 1000 years ago so what’s important is all the stories about what happened 1000 years ago.

        A few more people living shouldn’t make that much difference.

        I mean, compared to like Anna holding a torch for Makoto…

      5. A paradox in time is an event that is destined to change the timeline from the moment that someone who does not belong to that timeline modifies some event. History is going to modify and the people of the future will never know what happened. For them everything will be as if it had been that way from the beginning.

        Ira has just confirmed that she met Makoto for the first time in the future so the past was destined to be changed by either humans or demons.
        Finally, no one who died in the other timeline will die … honestly, no one of the good ones dies in this story, only the bad guys and the characters that never appear in history except by name.

      6. Savioroffrance san, In my opinion, I think fixing the history not really must to match past and future.

        For example, in the future you lost rice and go buy bun for your meal and you got full, and now you come back to past to change the excident of you lost rice, now you have rice for your meal and get full because of it, in the story now, it’s the will affect the same fact, that you full because eating “something”.

        So I think if in the will same it’s okay.

        Maybe.. 😂

      7. not really, they can hide too

        that, or goes somewhere unknown

        remember that there’s still country “outside” of the continent, and they have only promised to help when Iblis have actually resurrected

        those people might be their descendants

      8. And what’s happen with momo’s fate string without Makoto? I think this is like “John Smith” from suzumiya haruhi..

      9. “A few more people living shouldn’t make that much difference.” – @moridin84

        Apparently, you’ve never heard of the Butterfly Effect. Even the tiniest change in the timeline has effects that ripple into the future, causing more and more significant changes. And we’re talking about 1000 years here. If we strictly adhere to Butterfly Effect rules, then Lucy shouldn’t exist in the future anymore because Makoto affected Johnny’s actions. Reproduction and genetics are tricky. If you were conceived even five seconds later, then your chromosome pairings would most likely be different and you would be an entirely different person. Or it’s entirely possible that the exact sperm cell that conceives you doesn’t even reach the egg cell anymore. Now multiply that by every living thing (because other living things contribute to the ripples too) and number of seconds.

        1. Well, I think we’re looking at the larger historical scale of things. If the people that survive and exist thanks to this are shifted into the background so their family line either ends or live inconsequential lives somewhere that won’t affect major events, I think it qualifies as “not much of a difference”.
          It’s not that there aren’t ripples, but surely there aren’t ripples that can’t be smoothed out over 1000 years.

          For those small things like conception and genes…Please and thank you, Ira-chan~

  70. Feeling uneasy part 2…

    “Why?!” (Ira)

    “You messed up a lot of times before…” (Makoto)

    “Ugh… I won’t mess up again!” (Ira)

    This statement killing me 😂😂😂

  73. Ira-sama hugged my head tightly.
    Her small breasts were pressing on my face.
    It is not soft like Noah-sama and Eir-sama.
    “I will also forgive that rude statement of yours.” (Ira)
    “…I am sorry.” (Makoto).

    This line fit perfectly for makoto. His charm. “Honesty is the best policy” 😂😅😏

    1. “Ira-sama hugged my head tightly.
      Her small breasts were pressing on my face.
      It is not soft like Noah-sama and Eir-sama.
      “I will also forgive that rude statement of yours.” (Ira)”
      Makoto, you should know that flatness is justice !

      ““I-It is okay! I have an idea, so leave it to me!” (Ira)
      Ira-sama pushes her chest out proudly.
      Feeling uneasy part 2…
      “Why?!” (Ira)
      “You messed up a lot of times before…” (Makoto)
      “Ugh… I won’t mess up again!” (Ira)”
      This is a flag made the Divine Disappointment herself. She will definitely fail and Makoto will have to clean up her mess !

      ““Well, all this aside, I wanted to praise you. You did well, Takatsuki Makoto.” (Ira)
      That smile of hers was like that of a Goddess…right, she is one.”
      She is so clumsy that Makoto forgets that she is a Goddess. Adorable.

      “Can I…meet Noah-sama?” (Makoto)
      Those words came out unconsciously from my mouth.
      He really miss Noah, huh.

      “The Destiny Oracle Esther-sama hugged me.
      The Oracle-sama was small, but she came at me with quite the momentum, so I was pushed right down to the floor.
      “Good work coming out safely! I was worried you know!” (Esther)
      The Oracle-sama patted my head with her small hands while still on top of me. ”
      Ira pushed down Makoto ? I expected a lot of misunderstandings. Above all, that scene is kinda cute…
      https://i.imgur.com/p8VyaYB.gif

      1. It’s good that Momo or Abel/Anna isn’t there to watch it or it’ll cause a huge misunderstanding and at least it’s a bit relieving seeing that Dia doesn’t interrupt Makoto and Ira meeting.

      2. Hmm? Does Oracle Esther-sama also has a petite body then? Damn author didn’t really trying to hide his liking towards lolis

        1. Actually I think the description of Mary, Eir, and Sa san isn’t actually a loli, it’s not the author’s but the illustrator’s taste. there are equal amounts out big chests like Noel, and loli’s like Ira. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

          1. Mary and Eir are thicc tho, at least according to the manga and probably the illustrations (not that I’ve seen Mary’s illustrations)

      3. He blueballed his surrounding to the point that even his new acquaintance Goddess pushes him down.
        Now wonder that his old harem members are sustaining themselves with yuri route. I already saw 2 ships in fact, Lucy||Aya and Sofia||Janet. Kinda intrigued in fact, 2 is already a tendency, so it makes me wonder who will be paired with Momo and Furaie

    4. Feeling uneasy part 2…
      “Why?!” (Ira)
      “You messed up a lot of times before…” (Makoto)
      “Ugh… I won’t mess up again!” (Ira)

      Press “x” to doubt. The Divine Disappointment just raised a big flag. I’m calling it now but it’s going to be a big mistake from her.

      “Aah…you are worried about the time paradoxes, huh. That’s not it. Our first meeting was in the Highland Castle 1,000 years in the future. Understand it like that. I can share my past and future memories, but I am simply peeking at the countless possibilities of the future. And now by sending you to the past, the actual history and the changed history are mixing. The only one who can observe all history within the Goddesses is me, the Destiny Goddess. There’s a lot of futures, and the past is not certain; the flow of time in the world is vague.” (Ira)

      I still don’t understand it. So she’s saying the history’s mixing but how did Abel and Anna and up as different persons? How did they even defeat the Demon Lords under the Pitch Dark Clouds? Who was the Abel that left Anna? So many mysteries needed to be uncovered.

      “Right… If I had to say anything about it, it would be that your information literally can’t be read even if the Appraisal Skill is used. Even if it is used, it will show as the Appraisal being blocked.” (Ira)

      Hmmmmm. Was that Ira’s fault or did Noah do something again under Althena’s eyes?

      “Momo-chan seemed to like you, you know?” (Ira)
      “I am not a lolicon.” (Makoto)
      “You really get bothered by the smallest details.” (Ira)
      “Age isn’t a small thing!” (Makoto)
      Press “x” to doubt part 2. Says the man who has a loli in his harem in the present time.

      “Can I…meet Noah-sama?” (Makoto)
      Are we going to meet Noah-sama now? I’m dying to see their comedy skits again.

      1. Actually, I enjoy more the interactions between Ira and Makoto than the the ones between Noah and Makoto. Ira just gets along way too well with Makoto. They are literally a match made in heaven.

        1. Noah should be getting worried that her Apostle is getting closer to another Goddess then. If Noah was there, you bet she’s going to start Nelson holding Makoto or giving him a lecture.

        2. They match very well, if goddesses end up fair game for the harem Ira will be one of them 100%, I hope she starts traveling with them as I really want more of this banter between them

          1. @Asphyxia
            It’s something like an event trigger.
            The most simple way to describe it would be that, the moment Makoto went to the past, the future that he changed was unlocked as a ‘secret ending’. So this would be relayed to the future Ira AFTER he made it there, so the data that she could get from the past Ira didn’t exist because the Trigger didn’t happen yet.
            Remember that in theory, Makoto’s fate can’t be traced by the the Gods, and since he’s not a believer to the Holy Gods as well, they can’t locate or sense him. But the moment Ira from the past saw Makoto, she could get a bit of a grasp in the situation and the future from now on as well, but not much since, like I mentioned, they should not be able to see at all or much of his fate.

      3. Abel and Anna being separate is probably the result of it being a secret combined with the tale getting distorted and simplified over time.

      4. Who’s the Loli aside from momo? Regarding the history being mixed, I’d assume that besides Ira, Makoto also have the ability of being unaffected with the change in history. As he noticed the change in the statue of the savior. At that time the devil side might have already done something to the past. I don’t know if it’s due to him being directly related to the history or, due to the RPG skills, out of the world perspective ability. I’m more inclined to the latter because it’d be inconsistent if Makoto noticed the change before going to the past.

        For reference, in dragon ball super, Trunks made a connection between the past and the future by using the time machine. The time running in both world are linear to each other(its actually due to Trunks sets the time machine with the exact same settings as the previous time he used it but whatever). Applying to Makoto’s case the change in the future caused by makoto won’t happen until he went to the past. And the change in the statue the first time Makoto noticed was caused by the demon god. Hence the reason he’s able to notice it was due to his RPG skill.

        3. Sa-san looks a loli for me in her illustrations. If not her then Ira would be. A certified Goddess loli who might enter his harem.

          The main concern I have is how did Abel and his party defeat Iblis and his supposed one million demon army without Makoto? They seem too weak for me and the skies are still covered in Dark Clouds which is the fundamental problem. Light Hero skill is quite useless without the sun. Great Sage only managed to hold the clouds for a few minutes IIRC and that’s after a thousand years of proficiency and experience. Johnny and Mel are weaker than Demon Lords too so you’d think that the moment the Demon Lords team up, they’ll be annihilated.

          1. Hmmm… This situation is weird and confusing. We should probably wait for more information in the upcoming chapters.

          2. As Ira mentioned, it’s probably due to the power of revenge. There’d be some kind of miracle or something.

            Also Sa-san may be small, but I never really thought that she’s a loli. It’s just the illustrator’s art style. So in Makoto’s perspective, he’s always been a respectable human being that doesn’t go for lolis. Then again technically Aya is 2-3 years old in that world.

          3. Wtf HAHAHAHA. I forgot that Aya is technically toddler age there lmao. She’s not a legal loli on the isekai yet. The illustrator does have a taste for drawing flat chested heroines. Just look at Noah. She’s supposed to be the most beautiful goddess and then she’s somewhat flat. They give me a loli kind of vibe so I considered Sa-san to be a loli.

          4. I usually adjust my view to the standard of the artists’ artsyle. So the standard it’s relative to the style rather than how they objectively looks. Then again the illustration of later volumes kind of got worse. As if the illustrator is changed altogether, but its actually still the same. The head becoming bigger and bigger and their looks becoming more of a loli.

      5. Don’t know about status, but it does feels like something changed in Makoto(from perspective of others). It was pointed many times that his eyes are scary cold now.
        Maybe it is Noah’s Divinity seal on his Spirit Arm that was undone with his death/revive. Or maybe it was even integrated in him?
        Or is it his soul’s experience of being WSK made him break some barrier.
        Or is it his proficiency breaking Appraisal System’s limits(999?)
        It may be his contract with Dia(naming).
        Plus, I can’t just forget Ira/Furi’s reaction on his chooses selection.
        —-
        All in all there are plenty of questionable points where Makoto started to exceed humanity’s frame. It feels like he slowly walking in a demi-titan or a demi-spirit route, a route away from Holy God’s average specifications. It would explain how Divine Disappointment, being the weakest goddess And being weakened on top of it, already can’t see his specs. He is already breaking away from her system(Soul Book)

      6. Very sorry for the really long post, but here is how I personally understand the whole time travel here. I know it may sound complicated, but I actually did try to mix in some IRL physics.

        1st we must understand that everyone travels through spacetime in two cones connected in a single dot. Any point inside the rear cone is any potential past we could had seen or known about. Any point in the forward cone is any potential future we could see or hear about. Now Because we are only looking with respect to 1 point at any given time, if we change the point we can see a different potential past and future, which includes the previous point. In this way the cones of everyone are interlinked and crossing with each other.

        Now when she is saying that the histories are mixing it becomes literal. The history of the past (which Makoto remembers) is shaping the future at that moment in time. Which means that the history that the world of the future remembers will be different than the one he left with.

        Now the reason why he and Ira are able to remember is that to even be able to go to the past you must first be able to connect the future cone to the past cone. If you cannot make that connection than you cannot get information. Thus Makoto having traveled with his memories wont forget them (since info cannot be sent back). While Ira being able to see all of history, is outside the cone in the first place.

        **********************
        * P.S. My personal theory is that the RPG player skills has the ability to save/load and that every time he has made a choice the skill was auto saving his progress. This is compared to the Dating Sim player being able to read what others are thinking and saving it as a log. Or the Action Game Player being able to get revives, I-frames, and power-up.

  92. All this means that Makoto can woo as many as Johnny’s daugthers as he wants since they are suposed to be dead anyways, nice

  93. This time travel business is a bit confusing. I assumed it was a “stable time loop” where any changes he has already been included in the future. However, it sounds like there were actually dramatic changes.

    Especially considering how there were people in the future that already know Makoko and according to the side stories, all the girls seem to be moving based on an unchanged timeline.

    > “You, even though you had that many lovers 1,000 years in the future… What were you doing? An herbivore isn’t exactly cool or anything, you know?” (Ira)
    > “…”
    > I was training the whole time and missed the timings.
    > Who would have known that I would suddenly be thrown into the past?!
    > Ira-sama must have read my mind, she got a bit gentler.

    LOL. He actually is bothered by it.

    > “Listen here. In the original history, at this point in time, every Hero aside from Abel, and all the combatants of Laberintos aside from Johnny have been wiped out -by the hands of Demon Lord Cain, that is.” (Ira)

    Oh damn. I guess that does make sense though.

    > You said anything just now, right?
    > You did, right?
    > “N-No…I am the youngest child of the Goddesses, so I am weak, okay? Anything too big would be a bit…” (Ira)
    > She must have read my mind, she took a step back.

    What happened to not being a lolicon Makoto??

    But huh, Ira is actually kid as opposed to just looking like a loli. That does make to rethink all her actions until now.

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