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“You decide. Save the world, or destroy it…” (Noah)
The smile of Noah-sama even felt cruel.
My gaze wandered.
I thought for sure that the choices in RPG Player would show up, but…
Nothing is coming out.
I instead confirm the expressions of my comrades with Perspective Change.
Lucy was in a bad mood.
Sa-san was in tears.
Princess Sofia had a calm expression as if she were enduring something.
Furiae-san was making a face like that of an abandoned cat…
My resolve shook.
I was going to say something, but stopped it.
I feel like I would get affected if they were to try to stop me.
I faced Noah-sama again.
“Noah-sama.” (Makoto)
“What, Makoto?” (Noah)
“…I will go 1,000 years into the past. I will go save Savior Abel, okay?” (Makoto)
When I answered, I could hear everyone in the church sigh.
When I looked, I could see Althena-sama also make a relieved face.
“Is that okay? You won’t be able to meet your friends again, you know?” (Noah)
“Please don’t throw cold water on the resolve of someone.” (Makoto)
I showed a wry smile, turned to my friends, and went down the platform.
“Sorry, everyone. I will be going.” (Makoto)
“Takatsuki-kun…I don’t want this…” (Aya)
Sa-san grabbed my arm and sunk her face on my chest.
“I will go with you too… I want to go together with Takatsuki-kun, Goddess-sama…” (Aya)
“Sasaki Aya, you are way too strong… If we were to send you 1,000 years into the past, the Devils will notice it… You can’t go together with Takatsuki Makoto…” (Ira)
“Uuh…no way…” (Aya)
I could only hug the shoulders of Sa-san.
Someone approached from the back.
“Hero Makoto…saving the Savior-sama is an honorable task. I wish you good luck—” (Sofia)
“Sofia…” (Makoto)
Princess Sofia’s words got stuck in the middle.
“Sorry, even though you should be the one in pain here…” (Sofia)
“…”
Princess Sofia hung her head down.
What should I say here…?
“Geez, pushing yourself here. This girl…”
“Eir-sama?!” (Sofia)
Eir-sama suddenly appeared and hugged Princess Sofia from the back.
“When did you descent?” (Sofia)
“Hmm, I was summoned together with Noah when I was at the Deep Sea Temple.” (Eir)
“That easily?” (Makoto)
Oi oi, is that okay?
I looked at Althena-sama and she was scratching her cheek.
Aah, so she didn’t plan that either, huh.
“Yes, Sofia-chan. It is okay to cry when you are sad, okay?” (Eir)
“…Yes.” (Sofia)
It should be okay to leave Princess Sofia to Eir-sama.
My eyes made contact with Furiae-san at the back.
Her elegant expression was gone and she was flustered.
“U-Uhm…My Knight…” (Furiae)
“Princess, sorry…that I won’t be able to stay by your side despite being your Guardian Knight.” (Makoto)
“This isn’t about me! Are you really okay…? You will have to go all on your own 1,000 years into the past. That’s way too horrible…” (Furiae)
Furiae-san ran to me and grabbed my hand.
She was trembling.
“There doesn’t seem to be any other choice after all.” (Makoto)
“But…even though you have just come back to life not that long ago…why…do you have to face such…” (Furiae)
“Well, it can’t be helped.” (Makoto)
“You are always saying things so lightly…” (Furiae)
“Do your best founding your nation, Princess.” (Makoto)
“…Yeah.” (Furiae)
My resolve must have transmitted, Furiae-san let go powerlessly.
For last, I turn to where the red haired elf girl that has been silent for a while now is.
“Lucy, uhm…” (Makoto)
I was about to say ‘I am sorry, I won’t be able to adventure with you anymore’, but my words were cut off.
“Makoto!” (Lucy)
Lucy crossed her arms and glared at me.
The first comrade I got when coming to this world.
The girl I was acquainted with the longest in this world.
I couldn’t keep my promise of challenging the Deep Sea Temple together…
“Promise me.” (Lucy)
“Promise?” (Makoto)
“Come back! Save Hero Abel, and once you defeat the Great Demon Lord, come back to us!” (Lucy)
She points straight at me and says strongly.
“Lucy…” (Makoto)
I really want to come back, but Ira-sama has been explaining to me that I can’t return for a while now.
“Lucy J Walker…I have said this many times already, but there’s no method for Takatsuki Makoto to return to the prese—” (Ira)
“Shut up! Airheaded Goddess!” (Lucy)
“Wa?!” (Ira)
Lucy kicks away the words of Ira-sama.
“Makoto! DEFINITELY come back! Promise!” (Lucy)
As if reacting to the words of Lucy, letters floated in front of me.
Oh?
[Will you promise Lucy?]
Yes
No
(A choice here, huh…) (Makoto)
Even though there was no reaction when Noah-sama asked me.
It is not about going or not 1,000 years into the past, but whether I return or not, huh…
“M-My Knight…” (Furiae)
Furiae-san was stepping back as if she were scared.
“Takatsuki Makoto?! T-That’s—mgh!” (Ira)
“Alright, Ira, you shouldn’t get in the way of his tearful farewell with his comrades, okay?” (Noah)
Noah-sama covered the mouth of Ira-sama who was about to say something.
It seems like these two can see the choices.
But I must answer Lucy first.
“Lucy.” (Makoto)
I look at the burning red eyes of Lucy.
And then, I glanced at the choices RPG Player gave me.
Now that I think about it, choices showed several times when Lucy became my party member, right?
At that time, I couldn’t choose No in the end.
It was a forced party member route.
I remembered that and laughed a bit.
I am sure I can’t choose No here either.
“What?” (Lucy)
She glared suspiciously at my laugh.
I take a step towards Lucy.
“I promise you. I definitely will return.” (Makoto)
I choose [Yes] to the question of RPG Player.
“Hmph, definitely, okay? I won’t forgive you if you break your promise!” (Lucy)
Lucy faced the other way with a ‘pui!’ while still having her arms crossed.
I promised, so I have to keep it.
Now then, my farewells to my comrades are done.
What’s left is…
“Makoto-sama…” (Noel)
“Takatsuki-kun…” (Sakurai)
Princess Noel had a sad face, and Sakurai-kun on the verge of tears called my name.
…Oi oi, you are the Light Hero that will defeat the Great Demon Lord, right?
I will do my best in the past, so I leave the present to you, Sakurai-kun.
“I’ll be going. Take care of Sakurai-kun, okay, Princess Noel?” (Makoto)
I smiled awkwardly and gave my farewells.
“……”
Close to Sakurai-kun, there’s a small person looking straight at me…the Great Sage-sama.
Right, gotta speak to her too.
“Great Sage-sama, I am sorry. Even though I just became your Guardian Knight.” (Makoto)
“I don’t mind.”
The Great Sage-sama’s voice was the same as usual to a cold degree.
It makes me a bit sad.
“I leave Abel to you.”
“Yes.” (Makoto)
The words of the legendary hero that saved the world before were brief.
Brief, but heavy.
The Great Sage-sama didn’t show her usual grin, and was looking at me expressionless.
“By the way…you didn’t meet me 1,000 years in the past, right?” (Makoto)
This is a point that bothers me a lot.
She is the only person here that’s from that time after all.
“……”
There’s no response.
“Great Sage-sama?” (Makoto)
“…I didn’t, Spirit User-kun.”
“I see…” (Makoto)
Too bad.
If I knew that I acted together with the Great Sage-sama, it would have been quite relieving.
Looks like I won’t be able to meet the Great Sage-sama again in the past.
I looked around the church and everyone’s gazes were directed at me too.
(…I want to go around and give my farewells to everyone, but I don’t have the time.) (Makoto)
I return to the platform.
And then, I kneeled in front of Noah-sama.
“I will now be heading 1,000 years into the past, Noah-sama.” (Makoto)
“Is that so… Your resolve is firm. I got it, Makoto.” (Noah)
Noah-sama placed a hand on my head.
Will I get some farewell words?
—“In the name of the Goddess Noah, I dismiss you from being my believer.” (Noah)
“Huh?” (Makoto)
I heard something outrageous.
“W-What are you doing?!” (Makoto)
I raised my voice, but Noah-sama still had a composed expression.
I hurriedly checked my Soul Book…and the words [Apostle of the Goddess Noah-sama] were gone!
“I have a different Apostle 1,000 years in the past. You won’t be my believer anymore when you go there anyways. My believers are fixed to 1 after all.” (Noah)
“I-I see…” (Makoto)
At least explain it to me beforehand.
“Althena, Makoto will be heading to the past on his own, so give him some sort of Divine Protection.” (Noah)
“Hmm…but with how low his stats are, I can’t give him any strong Skills…” (Althena)
“It is fine. Better than nothing.” (Noah)
“Well, fine.” (Althena)
Althena-sama extends her hand to me.
—“In the name of the Sun Goddess Althena, I confer you a Divine Protection.” (Althena)
A small light covered my body.
Althena-sama says: ‘With this, I have given you the [Sun Magic: Elementary] Skill’.
Ooh…a new Skill here?
“M-Me too!” (Ira)
Ira-sama hugged me.
Wa?!
The small body of Esther-san hugged me tightly.
“Takatsuki Makoto… I am sorry. I caused you trouble… I will grant you the Divine Protection of the Destiny Goddess. I pray for your safe journey. I confer to you the [Destiny Magic: Elementary] Skill.” (Ira)
A warm light flowed into my body from the body of Ira-sama.
Ira-sama hugged me just like that for a while.
“Ira-sama, thank you very much.” (Makoto)
“Takatsuki Makoto…when you are in the past, come meet me. My past and present memories are shared, so you can consult with me… I can only give you advice though.” (Ira)
“Got it. I will search for you, Ira-sama. I just need to find the Oracle of 1,000 years ago, right?” (Makoto)
“That’s right. I just hope the Oracle hasn’t been killed though…” (Ira)
Ira-sama said in a low voice while still hugging me.
Uhm…can you let go already?
““……””
I can feel cold gazes from my back.
“Come on, Ira, get away.” (Noah)
Noah-sama pulled Ira-sama off.
“Prepare the time travelling spell already.” (Noah)
“I know…” (Ira)
Ira-sama began to chant her spell.
…A spell that requires the Destiny Goddess to chant, huh.
As expected of travelling 1,000 years into the past.
It must be a big spell.
“Makoto, there’s a number of things I have to tell you…” (Noah)
Noah-sama told me a number of things regarding the situation of the Dark Era.
About the Great Demon Lord.
About the 9 Demon Lords.
Especially about the former Apostle of Noah-sama.
And then, about how I wasn’t the believer of Noah-sama 1,000 years ago.
…It makes me feel bad.
“Takatsuki Makoto, I will say it once again.” (Althena)
The Sun Goddess cut into our conversation.
“Your mission is to go 1,000 years into the past and save the life of Hero Abel. There’s no need to mind anything aside from that.” (Althena)
“Aside from that?” (Makoto)
That way of saying it bothers me.
“Althena, you are beating around the bush. Listen here, Makoto. In other words, ‘You can do anything as long as you save Hero Abel’. For example; even if that’s changing history to a great extent.” (Noah)
“Eh?” (Makoto)
“Oi, Noah, I didn’t go that far.” (Althena)
Althena-sama corrects Noah-sama.
I am going to the past for the sake of not changing history, and yet, it is okay to change the past?
Or more like, isn’t it the rule of the rules to not put a hand on history when time traveling?
“You must not. With that kind of lukewarm thinking, you won’t be able to survive in the Dark Era. Listen well. Bringing history back to normal is the job of the Destiny Goddess Ira, and we will have her do that as if her life depended on it, so you concentrate on saving Hero Abel, Makoto.” (Noah)
“The words of Noah are rough, but she is correct. There’s no need for you to worry about history. Just concentrate on Hero Abel. Even if history changes from your actions, Ira will adjust it.” (Althena)
“Uuh…I will do my best.” (Ira)
Ira-sama responds with a tearful voice at what Noah-sama and Althena-sama said.
…Is Ira-sama going to be okay?
Well, I understand now.
Ira-sama will do something about the changes in history to a certain extent.
What I should do is stop the demise of Hero Abel who even Ira-sama can’t do anything about.
It must mean that ‘I can use any means’ for the sake of that.
But what’s going on in the past?
“Hero Makoto!”
Someone ran to me.
Princess Sofia.
“Please take this.” (Sofia)
“This is…” (Makoto)
What I was given was a small picture book.
What’s written in the front cover is Hero Abel’s Legend.
“If you read that, you will know where Hero Abel is in the past~.” (Eir)
“I see. Thanks, Sofia, Eir-sama.” (Makoto)
I nodded at the words of Eir-sama.
It is true that books are important in order to have a grasp of history.
Other things that are needed are…
There’s a lot of things I want to bring with me, but there’s no time to prepare them.
“Takatsuki Makoto, it is ready.” (Ira)
Ira-sama called me.
At the platform there’s a giant rainbow colored gate made with magic.
“If you cross this time traveling gate, you will be sent 1,000 years into the past. I can’t tell you with certainty where you will be teleported to, but it normally is a place that’s deeply connected with you. I think you will be teleported somewhere in Rozes.” (Ira)
“Got it.” (Makoto)
I nodded.
Before I cross the gate, I turn to my comrades one more time.
Lucy, Sa-san, Princess Sofia, Furiae-san…and Noah-sama.
“I’ll be going.” (Makoto)
Saying this, I stepped into the time traveling gate Ira-sama made.
—I journey 1,000 years into the past.
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RPG player works for Lucy as always!
Great Sage-sama...definitely suspicious! Hmmm....
Thanks for the chapter!
She only meet abel definitely not makoto (.❛ ᴗ ❛.)
Thanks for the chapter!
Ohhhhh shit!
Noah’s manipulating everything in the palm of her hands. I refrained from commenting last chapter since I wanted to see the very end until Makoto goes back to the past but holy shit, Noah’s really smart and I mean REALLY smart.
Just my speculation but I think this is what Noah planned.
Her plan first starts when she knew that the Great Demon Lord was about to resurrect and intentionally didn’t inform Makoto about it during the time Althena apologized to him about Alex. At the end of that chapter, Makoto mentioned that Noah-sama looked like she wanted to say something but she didn’t. This is because they might have made some tactics to counter the Great Demon Lord’s plan to mess up history if she reminded them. This is important because if they did, Makoto would probably not be sent back to the past since they’ll have predicted or seen the actions of the Great Demon Lord.
Now, witholding that info from Makoto, she knew he was going to be picked because of the conditions needed to send a warrior. Now by sending Makoto, she gains favors from the Holy Gods and gains benefits for her as well. She can now have unlimited followers as well as become a Goddess Church member.
But this is all useless unless she gains her freedom so she has to rely on Makoto. She asks the goddesses to give some skills to Makoto under the pretext of helping him in battles in the past but has a hidden purpose. Most importantly, Makoto needs destiny magic. She INTENTIONALLY descends on her true form to have an excuse to show and use the power of Time Spirits to Makoto. It was a hint on her part on how he can return to the present. If she showed up without her true form, Makoto will be stuck in the past not knowing how to get back. Now, we all know that increasing your proficiency on an element will make you see spirits. Since Destiny Magic controls time and space, Light Spirits if there even are.
End result is Makoto being able to summon Undine since he has achieved 999 proficiency on water magic, see or directly affect the future with destiny magic and possibly see and control Time Spirits, and lastly possibly use sun magic and see and control hypothetical Light Spirits assuming they exist as well.
Now Makoto becomes extremely overpowered and can probably free Noah now too fron the Deep Sea Temple. See where this is going? Noah was manipulating everything so that she could be gain her freedom and move on to helr next plan. This is where Makoto’s three major goals come to place. Defeating the Great Demon Lord, freeing Noah-sama, and taking away the authority of the Holy Gods. Their next move is still debatable for me but yeah that’s it.
Ps. Even Reigokai-sensei is speculating in what happens holy shit.
I will confirm only this... Noah is always scheming LOL. There will be surprises. Ira may read fate, but Noah can read Makoto. Make of that what you will.
I hope he summons another high elemental spirit thing. What were their names again?
Water - Undine, Fire - Salamander, Earth - Gnome and Air - Sylph.
There are several other elements, so those probably have high spirits/spirit weapons as well. Even if they weren't named at all.
The question is how does she know all of this and since when ?
probs makoto met her 1000 years in past and she didnt mention it so she knew all along about how strong he will become
That might be plus, RPG Player didn’t show any choices for Makoto to go to the past or not. It only showed Lucy’s promise meaning it was probably predetermined or something.
That might be plus, RPG Player didn’t show any choices for Makoto to go to the past or not. It only showed Lucy’s promise meaning it was probably predetermined or something.
She’s cunning and smart. My guess is probably something related to her field? We still don’t know what goddess of what she is. Something knowledge related that might be similar to Ira and transcends time.
In the epilogue of the volume 1 of the LN, Noah said to the Titan God Old Man things like "Makoto is the greatest Apostle ever" or "He’s going to turn our world upside down. You’ll see." It makes me wonder if she knew that Makoto was going to travel to the past from the very beginning (since 1,000 years ago maybe ?).
he should have more than 999 proficiency its just that 999 is visual block (not actual one cause there is no limit for it) that you can see in soul book so no one really knows how strong makoto is now and also it would be more fun to see makoto use sun spirits than time ones... he would be able to cosplay as light hero just by using them and pretend to be abel to kill great demon king... ngl I think that abel is actually pretty weak and will just get carry from makoto
next chapter he just walks through the front door of the church, calling it now
End of the ark more likely...
Probably, but it would have been funny.
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Agreed
1. what if he just ended up 1000 yaers ago in his japanese hometown? I think that would make more sense than anywhere in this world where he has been living like a nomad, but for the storytelling it is not in line with what happened at all
2. maktoto will definetly use the time spirits, since the author deliberately showed their existence, to come back, but the battle will be interesting none the less
Chills just by reading it. Thanks
Thanks for the chapter!
It is here bois... makoto got 2 new skills to polish and in old world (1000 years ago) there will be more spirits and goddesses have let him do whatever he wants to save abel so we can expect things like him soloing great demon king to gain prof. in magics
The problem is why Eir didn't give anything to him.....I mean he's trying to save a Abel If Noah hadn't interfered Athena wouldn't have given him her blessing ....... they want him to save Abel without giving him anything lol.
Remember one of the conditions to travel. The choosen needed to be weak and even if Eir did give Makoto Intermediate or even Advanced mahic, he would not be able to use it at all.
He's already a beginner-level water mage.
Don't forget about thousand years ago harem haha
So now he got the ability for beginner level destiny and light magic but he can't use them with Spirits right? They're normal beginner level spells unlike his Water Spirit King
Well, now that he’s no longer he’s no longer Noah’s follower, he can level up his stats now.
Isn't he already able to level up? It's just that it makes little difference since his base stats are low. I'm not sure about this but his low stats was a factor on why he was never accepted by any of the countries' churchs.
Also because his strenght being so low Noah gave him a dagger instead of another weapon because he can't carry it
he can... even his water magic is just beginner... all he needs is to raise his proficiency high enough to see and be able to use spirits then he will be able to use sun and time spirits at will thanks to his fucking high proficiency in spirit magic
I see. Well also i forgot about magic would be impossible for his 6 mana... How could he do beginner level water magic before with 6 mana honestly...
by using water in surrounding... instead of generating his own he trained by water which extremly reduces mana cost... with light this will be easy just train during day and just like charm he can have destiny all time on with his clear mind so easy
Thanks for the chapter.
So uhh, if makoto could also change other things and its favorsble to everybody, then..... Converting Noah to the side of the light is potentially possible.
Ohh the plot is getting interesting with two completely new Magic’s their still elementary but with Makotos resolve I don’t see any problem
Now makoto can use time spirit with destiny magic haha
Keep in mind the proficiency requirements. No reason to assume time or light spirits are going to work differently. So grinding is necessary, but this is Makoto we're talking about. Since he has the skill now, he can grind it. Too bad he didn't get all the elemental skills.
But there are certain shortcuts that Makoto has used before. For example synchronizing with Lucy - even though normally he can't use fire at all - he used Fire Spirits. Of course his control wasn't as good since he's proficient in water, not fire. So then is there another way to use time spirits? You can speculate from there easily enough.
I can already see Makoto pulling a doctor strange with his destiny magic
Iblis! I've come to bargain!
Let’s address the elephant in the room.
Ira-sama shares her present and past memories???? That one statement alone brings out so many questions.
Why doesn’t she remember Makoto then? How far defines present and past? Is it more of a system where she has memories of her future self, but it is like an archive she has to search manually to get? What kind of restrictions does it have?
The fact that she doesn’t know Makoto in the present must mean a few things. Something happened to her memories.
The biggest possibility I can think of is that Ira reseted her memories to maintain the events of the timeline stable.
The other is that it has to do with Makoto’s RPG Player messing up the timelines in some way that even Ira’s ability is all funky.
Hmm...
Could you ban person with nick Nagumo.
He gave spoilers in recent coments.
Ahh, i have a theory about this:
What if the timeline of this world is already a fixed timeline and Ira just doesn't know about it. I mean, maybe history itself is a force here and it fixed itself by using another force from the future to mess with an irrergular that went back time to change the usual course. And it eliminated Makoto out of that timeline and mended history back it's course(with the RPG player skill's help) by somehow teleporting him back to the current timeline. So Ira,the only one who governs fate know about the timeline where makoto isn't teleported to the past but doesn't know about the fixed timeline caused by history itself.
And another theory about the coffin. Anna might be staying inside and will only awake when makoto comes back.
I think it's a bit of both
Ira might've worked to repair the timeline to the original, but some of Makoto's achievements stays and merged with the original Abel's legend because of RPG Player abilities
Im assuming they are using back to the future time travel rules but with delayed effect of the changes, allowing them time to send him back to stop them. Going back and messing with the past alters the timeline and once the changes spread out like a ripple in a pond the changes are set and the new timeline takes over. Ira saw the changes occurring and the ripple spreading out and sent him back before the ripple reached them. She wont be aware of his actions in the past until hes been sent back to do them so her ability wont take effect until hes gone and made his own ripple.
Memory reset or did something that required compensation of some sort like memories for its fuel? Could it be due to the events of the past, Ira develops some grudges with Makoto in the present without any memories? That would explain a number of things.
If Ira's the one fixing or writing history, I can see why its faulty to begin with lol. That clumsy but adorable effort.
Haha, yeah. Now that you mention it, being born a God must really suck sometimes.
Ira was born as the Destiny Goddess with all the complicated stuff about time. Just thinking about the tangled mess that are the destinies of people, I would go insane.
Like I was saying in the previous chapter, time travel always brings up paradoxes which can't really be explained logically which is why I am so unhappy with this development...
It is a world of magic. It can explain itself with things outside our logic. It doesn't have to work with ours.
Saying they are paradoxes or plotholes when not knowing yet is like assuming a person sucks at baseball because you saw a similar boy suck too.
Honestly, unless they are super heavy inconsistencies or botching characters for plot convenience, I don't really mind the small details as long as the story is fun.
No one is an expert in time traveling in the first place. It is a foreign concept that has way too many variations in different media. Just enjoying the story and saying 'uuh, Makoto and Abel?! There's a chance he might meet Cain and an 'Evil Noah'?!' or the Great Demon Lord battle in the past?!' is what I would stick with.
There's another possibility - the time might be more complicated. Consider the very idea that history might get rewritten AND that it can come as a surprise to gods while not being instantenous enough to prevent them from acting... Personally I'd expect time to be layered thing. There's mortal time - but then you get overlapping layers above it. The rewrite of mortal-time history is happening in the higher level time, so to speak. The past with Makoto time-travelled back has yet to happen - and Ira in the past has future Ira's memories because the future where Ira sent has already happened and thus Ira - attuned to higher level time - now remembers that already-happened future.
I mean, imagine our Ira as someone who's reading a book while also being able to influence the story - and now decided to go with a major 'cheat' and write Makoto, who she read about later, into part she's already read. Her past memories include the future NOW, but she didn't yet know Makto when reading that section previously.
I'm having Rokujuma Blu Knight flashbacks with all of these talking
Simpler explanation that also explains why Ira seems airheaded.
Her memory is only nearly perfect, so she has to search through infinite memories to find what she needs to remember, but can remember things closer in time to where she is right now more clearly/easily.
Hmm, well it was mentioned several times that Ira was awfully friendly with Makoto, even in their first conversation. People said the same with Makoto and the Great Sage.
So that could be a hint.
My Theory
I think Makoto is Abel, thats why destiny magic doesnt see his future, because he already has a predestined future which is going to the past and saving the world. Noel also mentioned this before on the Sun Country Arc, that the saviour Abel mysteriously just dissapeared. I dont know about you but that kinda hits the target for me, that Makoto somehow got back to the present. Also on the Wood Country Arc the demon lord was acting kinda sus when he met Makoto, but later denied it, maybe because he doesnt have the sun blessing yet which Althena gave to him this chapter. As for why Ira didnt say he met makoto of the past... probably the same reason as he is Abel?? idk, but on that conclusion this my theory.
To add something to your theory, Athena said that Ira will do her best to adjust history if Makoto somehow change it, this might imply that people remember Makoto's face and characteristics differently because the history was adjust by Ira. Abel might be a real person but Makoto might have accidentally taken Abel's role in the past. It also might mean that this wasn't the beginning of this paradox, rather it already happened.
I really like speculation like this, it's really fun to think plot stuff.
Well there's a chance that she's lying about she doesnt remember makoto. Its not like all the god say is the truth. Or it just you said she erased her own memory, but i think its not like that because there's no point erasing her own memory since she's practically not someone who should directly interfene with the world. There was also the foreshadowing when makoto meet biffrons and almost said his name to seketh (CMIIW l forgot this guy name). So it must be just like the others said about makoto being irregular. Remember noah said about makoto that "He’s going to turn our world upside down"? I think this develeopment is already inside noah prediction. Maybe she's the only one in the world who know makoto better that anyone. Well because the lack of information all we can do is just wait until author give another hint
Since this is the 9th arc, what was the title?
Yes, It's Farewell. Or Parting
別れ=wakare= farewell, parting, separation
@simplethrone is the one who said that the title of the arc was "Farewell" I think.
"Farewell"
As someone who likes time traveling stories, I think that probably means that there might be no paradox yet but there will be one, which is why Makoto "can't return". That is, the current timeline's past wasn't affected by Makoto but is in the process of being changed by the Great Demon Lord and Makoto. So, even if Makoto returns, he will return to a present that is different from the one he knows. A new timeline, where a Makoto from the present must go to the past in order for the present to exist.
The only way for Makoto to return to the current timeline would be if he is able to revert each and every change in the timeline that he and the GDL cause, that didn't exist in the original timeline, without anyone, specially Ira, learning about it. Otherwise, it'd be a new timeline again.
And in regards to making that possible, either by reverting the changes or simply making them unknown to everyone (Gods included), it could involve the new skills he got. Remember? Noah used [Time Spirits] and Makoto just got [Destiny Magic]. It could be a possibility since he went back to a time where the influence of the Holy Gods was weaker and the power of the Spirits should be more present.
Well, it's just a guess though.
tbh im not going to be surprise if the so called demon lord is actually makoto, what they sealed wasnt the great demon lord, but makoto lmao
I think that Ira and rest of his team from the past somehow changed perceptions of others about events in the past.
1. In this chapter we have some sort of pause before Great Sage answered his question.
2. In chapter where he killed vampir demon lord, he was recognised by him as someone he know from the past.
2,5. Gods can't meddle with demon minds.
Time travel thingies always brought theories and others xD
It could be
1. Ira-sama didn't remember Makoto at all because she in fact hasn't meet Makoto up until now and the past history just changed right now, when Makoto and friends transported to the another world
2. Just like your speculation where Ira-sama's memory got resetted
3. Just like Gladiator02 said
Could be more possibilities, and it should be.
We can't say for certain except we understand ther author's way of thinking or we know the end of the story where we finally can make proper conclusion based on the story. The former one is the best way to know how it works though
Author is confusing me too. He gave too many hints about Makoto being the hidden hero party member but now he's saying past starts changing. So there was another hidden mvp in the past that got forgotten? Or it was Makoto and Goddesses keep lying
Wait or maybe demons can remember the past Makoto interfered in the current timeline. When you think about it only demons mentioned the hidden party member. Demon King Bifros and his blind aide. What if because they were the ones that interfered with the past, they can remember how their plans got crushed by Makoto in the past either?
Just thought about this now and it makes sense to me honestly
If it worked just like normal memory she should know literally everything, and she clearly doesn't. Maybe she only knows story that's already 'written'? As in her past self will know the future only because it already happened to makoto who then came to the past? Or maybe it works just like future sight that can't see makoto and the snake church clearly.
Or maybe the author just derped giving her an unplanned for power, lul.
No i don't believe something happened to her memories.It's about Makoto being the “Irregular” like how Furiae's future vision changes when Makoto is around and Ira not being able to predict the future of times Makoto interferes past can still change. Meaning the past Ira's memories that interfered with Makoto can't reach future Ira because it hasn't happened in the past yet either.
That's my guess but it's confusing haha