WM – Chapter 194: Sakurai Ryosuke is reminded

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• The state of Sakurai was like Kouki when he fighted the army in that other world. That method to break the barrier is actually really smart, continuosly damage it with magic of the highest level is pretty smart, now the question is if the same would work against a true god level magic, considering a true god level magic a spell casted by a divine being instead of one casted by mortals with some sort of trick.

  • Maybe he would sync with Goddesses to use divine magic then xD

    • That would be awesome.

  • It was said that the ranks are something made by humans? I don't remember that, at least the skills have ranks and if I recall well someone said that in the manga and ln the skills description of the skills are made by a god (I don't remember if is Ira or Moon Goddess) and various times gods mention ability of god rank, like the charm of Noah or the eyes of Water Goddess, And from how the olympian don't taked drastic actions with the spirits the same way the do with the titans, I think that the spirits are actually not a threat to gods, and Noah herself say that is probably impossible to clear the sky with spirit magic so maybe even thought they have the mana of the planet they have limitations, and the gods had destroyed the world two times already so yeah, the spirits from the moment don't seem like they can compete with gods.

    • yeah, Makoto cloud talk is next chapter

      sorry

    • Oh, I confused that with future chapter.

      Sorry that one is a spoiler. We'll have Makoto and another character talk about skill rank in the future. Then again because of the nature of MTL (It's highly not accurate) and what you've said, I believe skill ranks were made by Holy Gods/Olympians for human race, and Titan/Old demons affiliated figure don't use them too much. Then again, author sometimes literally forgot the stuff he's written (he's even admitting it on syosetsu page).

      The one who wrote skill descriptions is Ira. This, I believe is not a spoiler.

      About clearing the sky with spirit magic, wasn't Makoto already talked about this? Because I believe Makoto said something to the effect of "You can't clear the clouds because it's like controlling other people's spell. No matter how much proficiency you have, you can't control other people's spell" to himself.

      Or did that happened next in the fight against Zagan? My memory is jumbled, I'll check RAW after this.

      Olympians don't take any drastic actions against spirit is probably because:
      1. Their leaders, Titans and Giants, have already been defeated.
      2. They're part of the rules of the world.

      So yeah, spirits maybe can't win against the holy gods. But that wasn't what I meant by Makoto casting god rank spell with spirit power. After all, you don't need to be the strongest god to cast a god rank spell, you only need to do what god can do. We've been given hints, and I think one of them is the time when Noah helps Makoto stopping the meteor. You don't need "control" like a normal spell. You will it, then it happens.

  • He did take down a God level spell, by using the power of a God, using a spirits and his arm, he has the power of a God.

    • Makoto can reach the realm of God rank magic as long as he has enough mana and proficiency.

    • Hmm, no, he have divinity in his arm but it's a minuscule amount and he can't use it, Makoto is still far to reach god level of power, a attack from Sakurai is still more powerful that one from Makoto, but the detail is how handy the magic of Makoto are and in this situation because of could use it continuosly by a good amount of time he could destroy the degraded god level spell.

      • Spirits are the power of all the water in the world, it's at the level of a God, but he can't really control it most of the time.

        • Yes, the spirits are the manifestation of the nature of the world, but if the gods want the can destroy the world, they already do it, and Noah herself say that with spirit magic is probably impossible break a god rank spell. The simple fact that the Olympians hadn't destroyed the spirits or sealed them, at least the ones from highest level like Undine, and they only reduces their influence because they are a problematic bunch from they point of view (I don't recall in what chapter was said that they thinked of them as problematic) I think is proof enough to say that the spirits are inferior than the gods.

        • The spirits were subordinate to the Titan Gods, doesn't mean they have less power, just that they won't do anything without direction. So the Holy Gods weaken the ones around their territories.

        • If I remember well Titan Gods only haave a good relaptionship with the spirits different to the olympian and that's because their nature(personalities) was similar, yes, there was the spirit language to control them, but they don't seemed like they used the spirits to fight. And the olympian weaken the spirits aside of because they don't have a good relaptionship with them because they are to emotional so they tend to damage the surroundings to easily.

• Yup, Takki-Dono took the brute force method people suspected earlier. Just overload the barrier.

  Also, YAY! We see the Deep sea spell again. I do like that one! And literally he just insta crushed every single monster that charged in! Next he needs to clear up the clouds, but how...? Can’t wait to find out!

  • @Azuka: Why not go Rimuru ways? That Megido Flame he use to annihilate the Templars. In essence, using water spirit magic, create numerous water lenses with specific angles, to converse sun light into some kind of heating rays. Imagine multiple laser shots, from multiple angles. That would be epic... 🤔

    • @clintmanuba also, no need for the thanks.

    • No spoilers please.

  • Dude he already did. With the amount of water he was generating he turned it towards the sky and "broke the spell"

    From the way Takatsuki-kun spoke, it is as if having the barrier would have been better…

    “Sakurai-kun, it is your turn.” (Makoto)

    “…Alright.” (Sakurai)

    I understand the reason why soon enough.

    The barrier crumbled, and the water that Takatsuki-kun generated turned into the shape of a giant dragon and rose up into the sky.

    • He did not clear up the clouds. It only says that he levitated the water dragon into the sky. If he had cleared up the clouds then it would have specifically been mentioned.

  • I'd like to see a deeper version of it. Would be awesome if Makoto would also do a water spear with the same pressure as that for offensive magic. I mean, imagine something that you thought was a harmless spear-shaped water, and by the time you touched it at the tip with your finger as lightly as possible, there's blood coming out.

    • Nevermind, Neptune's surface pressure is abour the same as Mariana trench's

    • Idk if that would be dense enough to have hardness of something like diamond. You might need something of a pressure of neptune to get solid water. So water spear by itself is likely not as effective as something like, pressurized water gun

      • Yeah it isn't dense, but it has an incredible amount of pressure. My point about the water spear is that it doesn't have to be dense but has a lot of pressure as substitute for "denseness".

        Pressure and denseness is of course different. If you apply force to an object with incredible denseness, then nothing would happen. But if you apply force to object that has a lot of pressure, then they'll resist. For example springs.

        So it's actually the resistance that i meant. But water would always flow to lower terrain because of gravity. It means to get water to resist, then you would need to apply force to the opposite of gravity. Only then the water would gives resistance, giving pressure to you.

        But Makoto is able to manipulates water. It means he also could direct the water flow to anywhere he wants, even defying gravity. By using Deep Sea Magic, in a sense he is directing water pressure to any way he wants it to be.

        Now back to spear. If he would make a spear out of water and gives Deep Sea Magic to it to all direction, he could literally hold its handle firmly as if it's a solid object because what he is holding is the pressure itself and not the physical form of the water. Think of a balloon full of air. When you hold the balloon, you can feel that the air is resisting if you try to squeeze it. That's what Makoto would feels with his spear.

        And if, say that spear is launched towards someone and hit him. That someone of course would try to maintain his position (Newton's first law). In doing so, that someone is giving force towards the spear, and in return the spear would resist. The spear, having greater force than that person could handle, would pierce through that person.

        And why Makoto could holds it as if it's a solid object? Because he holds it in its handle where it has smooth, even surface. The pressure would be distributed to all of the surface (Just like balloon on nail bed experiment). But in the tip, all the pressure would be directed into a single point. Just like a single nail that is being constantly hammered.

        Yep, sorry for explaining it all. I just feels like it because it is fun for me to explaining things xD

    • Interesting thought. In the case he could launch pressurized water and keep it pressurized, it hitting you would be like something VERY hard (very dense) hitting you. A lot of the damage would depend on the force it strikes you with. Well if the edge was sharp, that would also be of concern. If he kept it up, water drill. But that's not the scary part.

      Another comment had that pressure at 97776.95 kPa. The moment he released the hold on the pressure...

    • Imagine the kind of magic he can naturally use, like a tiny water droplet, or his signature ice needles, but the water inside is at crush depth.

• Thanks for the chapter

• thanks for the chapter... makoto so badasss

• Thanks for the chapter!!

• Thanks for the chapter~

  Makoto is strong enough to brute force now huh

  • Well, this time it's luckily a magic brute force, not physical brute force

    • Hmm I wonder if it could have been popped with "Invincible Time"?

    • “Magic power gorilla” exactly like the other Makoto

• Thanks for the chapter, and anyone who sponsored this!

  So the barrier actually has its absorption limit. What? That's kinda lame... I thought that the absorbed mana would strengthen the barrier even more...
  Someone who could maintaining 3 magic is rare, even within the Sun Division? Does that applies to any magic, including low level magic?

  Anyway, Makoto asked Sakurai about relationships and Sakurai said he asked the wrong person? Seems Sakurai really is just forced to mate with his fangirls and no actual reciprocating feeling Lol.

  Time to face Zagan, it seems. I need detailed information on how big it is. Giant Beast, is simply not enough :( A size of a truck could be called giant already. I wish this time the author also mentioned the comparison of how big the enemy is, just like the time with Bifrons.
  Wait a minute. Zagan? Didn't Sakurai defeated him already? Oh wait, young version. So Zagan reincarnated or something?

  • I'm personally imagining the size of tiamat from FGO babylonia, but it may only be the size of gorgon of fgo:b or smaller. a dump truck for sure would still be massive.

  • The barrier may have been a high rank magic but the quality of the actual spell wasn't good enough so it ended up having an upper limit of how much mana it can absorb. Compare it to the dark clouds, Noah said that it is god rank magic but that it would clear up in a day while that exact same spell was cast back during Abel's time and it was perpetual. Same rank same spell but different spell quality so a different spell duration. Basically the barrier seems to have been in the same situation.

    As for Zagan then did mention it previously that he transferred his power and title to his son before using himself as a decoy to be killed by Sakurai. This current demon king I guess you could call Zagan Jr.

    • The amount of mana it can absorb should have been absolute overkill... right up til you have a spirit user with a spirit arm and spirits have basically unlimited mana. So a large volume spell on continuous output, absorbing the magic from every inch of the internal surface area. I don't know how much worse pressurizing it to extreme levels was.

      Makoto is the edge case among edge cases... them taking down the communication network means Makoto likely wouldn't have even known before Sakurai was dead already, let alone managing to get there in time. If he got there, surely he can't get in. Even if he could, how could he possibly take down such a barrier? Sufficient that Sakurai can't scratch it, and the entire army of humans can't do it either. And in the futures both prophets saw... the Demon's plan worked perfectly.

      Makoto yet again smashed their plan, and they'll never understand just how he did it.

    • Ah, right. I completely forgot about that one. After i picked a new WN series that i rushed to catch it up.

  • The child of Zagan.

    • I don't see it being mentioned yet other than the result of our speculation that is supported by "looks familiar, younger beast king Zagan" (or i might just forgotten about it). But well, yeah that's a possibility. So Zagan basically transferred his power to his son if that's actually the case

• thank you for the chapter
  now eaiting for them to kick drmon lord ass !

• Thanks for the chapter

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