Chapter 39-41: Water capital's daily scenery

We have arrived.
“This is the Water capital, Hydra Ville. The city where the Water Church’s headquarters are located.”
What a beautiful scenery this city has.
There’s canals and waterways here and there in the city, and on top of that, there’s several tourist-looking people that have been passing by us on board of gondolas.
“Hydra Ville is a port city build on the sea. Because of it, within the five Churches, this is the wealthiest one.” (Karen)
“Since the time the ethereal technology developed, their amount of goods transportation and the scope of it has increased drastically, and its worth as a trade port has increased drastically as well. In those points, the Water Church dealt with it in a flexible manner. The tolerance of ethereal machines is number one in this place.” (Mirack)
“Cargo ships that run with ethereal energy have been created, so there’s no need for the assistance of the waves and wind anymore after all. But I like this city as a sightseeing city, you know. Those gondolas are incredibly cute.” (Karen)
“I have heard that the maintenance and the sightseeing places are mainly managed by the Water Church.” (Mirack)
Even if I compare it to the few places I have seen until now, I can tell that the Water capital, Hydra Ville, was build with a clear policy in mind.
But this sagaciousness…it smells a lot like that person…
 
Water God, Coacervate.
 
He was a cunning and clever God. In the Genesis era, the one who formed the network of five Gods and defeated me was him.
And this place is the Water Church’s headquarters, and the church that follows Coacervate.
Are the believers of the churches influenced by the God that they worship?
“…And so, we are going to go meet the water hero Celestis now but…how do you plan on meeting her?” (Haine)
“Let’s go to the headquarters of the Water Church, the water grand church. It is normal for the hero to be there, and even if she is not, we should be able to obtain some sort of clue.” (Karen)
“Just like in my case, you guys really like to charge in without making any appointments…” (Mirack)
Ignoring what Mirack said, I confirm the map in order to head to the Water Church’s headquarters.
“Hm, the shortest route would be to go straight here and…” (Haine)
“Ah, Haine-san, they say this viaduct is a famous place! Let’s go check it out!” (Karen)
“We aren’t here to sightsee, you know?” (Haine)
Is what I say when…
*Dondoko dondondokodon dondokodondondon*
“?!”
*Dondoko dondondokodon dondokodondondon*
A strange noise was approaching from somewhere?
“What’s with this noise? A musical instrument… A drum?” (Mirack)
“Haine-san, at the canal!” (Karen)
Looking at the place Karen-san is pointing at, I could see a drum floating on the water…no, that’s not it. There were a lot of drums on top of a big ship, and these drums were being beaten by many men.
The ship was wide, enough to occupy half of the canal. The gondolas that were passing by its side were in a tight state. They might crash with a single mistake.
The ship’s height was also proportional to its width, and it was so high that even us who were looking at a slightly elevated area had to look up. And on top of it, there’s men beating drums.
*Dondoko dondondokodon dondokodondondon*
“What’s that?” (Haine)
“I don’t know.” (Karen)
“Like hell we would understand this!” (Mirack)
Not a single one of us understood what was going on.
And, without a single care about our confusion, the situation headed onto an even more confusing one.
“Everyone~! I will be intruding-nyaa~~!”
A  loud voice, that felt as if it was pressing onto the inside of my head, pierced my eardrums.
In the middle of the men that were beating the drums, a part that we were unable to see from our position had lifted high up -probably by the use of some sort of mechanism- and became a stage, moreover, there was one girl standing on top of that stage…
“The water hero, Celestis?!” (Haine)
There was no difference from the poster. That’s why I could tell. Things like the sleeve and the skirt’s hem were fluttering about, and the places that must be concealed are dangerously open; a sly outfit.
With only slight movements, the outfit moves a lot which attracts the eyes. And as a finishing blow, that sparkling smile of hers, it was as if she was utilizing 100% of her face’s muscles.
“An announcement! I have come to announce the live that will be held tomorrow~~!” (Celestis)

Aqua
Aqua?!

*Dondoko dondondokodon dondokodondondon*
The drums were interluding in good tempo.
“Cleaning everyone’s gloom, the pure stream water songstress, hero Celestis and her many drummers-de~~su!!” (Celestis)
*Dokodokodokodokodokodoko!!!*
I don’t understand anything anymore.
“An additional public performance has been decided earlier, and from tomorrow on to three days, there will be live concerts!! This time’s venue is incredible, you know! The stage is floating on the sea! No doubt it will be become a specialty of Hydra Ville! If you don’t come see the sea stage, you will regret it for the rest of your life! If you don’t come…Celes-tan will smush you into soup!!” (Celestis)
Yup, not one word at all.

  • 40: Emergency Announcement

“[Flame Burst]!”
A hellfire attacked the advertising ship mercilessly.
The culprit is, of course, this person that controls fire.
“Mirack-san?! What are you doing?! Are you an idiot?!” (Haine)
“Don’t blame me! You are also unable to take anymore of this odd atmosphere, right?!” (Mirack)
Well, that’s true but…even if that’s the case, turning into an arsonist because of that is questionable as a hero.
“Don’t worry. For her, this doesn’t even amount to a fart.” (Mirack)
When I look, the fire, that was supposed to be chaotically spreading in the place, was devoured by what seemed like an even bigger monster and was extinguished.
That giant monster that devoured this fire was…water.
The water below the canal rose up like a snake, lunged onto the fire, and devoured it completely.
“…What’s this, seriously… Even if you get incredibly excited, please don’t throw things to the stage, customer-sama…” (Celestis)
On top of the stage, the beautiful girl fluttered her blue garment.
“That garment, that looks like a dancing outfit at a glance, is actually the strongest divine relic of the Water Church, rivaling Karen’s holy sword Saint-George and my Fire Fist Barbarossa.” (Mirack)
You serious?
“Naturally, looking at the affinities between our elements, that person is my worst opponent. Water extinguishes fire. For her who is the water hero, extinguishing that level of flames is nothing.” (Mirack)
Mirack looked as if she had snapped, but it seems she actually thought it out before attacking.
No, she wouldn’t have attacked if she didn’t snap in the first place. Well, it can’t be helped. Faced against such a mental corroding attack…
And so, this flashy fire and water clash gathered even more of the attention from the people, and it also drew attention to us.
“Oi, isn’t that… the ‘fire hero, Katack Mirack-sama’? And there’s even the ‘light hero-sama’ too. I am from Apollon City, so I know!”
The attention is increasing.
Now then, how do we calm this down. It is not on the level of Celestis, but Mirack and Karen-san can also be considered the face of their respective church.
I wouldn’t want to have us retreat in a way that would worsen the view the populace has on them.
“Everyone~~ the special guests have appeared~~!!” (Celestis)
Once again, the loud voice from the stage resounds.
“In this time’s live stage performance, we will have the other churches’ heroes appearing as a special event! I wanted to keep it a secret until the appointed day, but I can’t hold it any longer, so I will be spilling the beans~~~!!” (Celestis)
“Whaaaaat?!”
I wasn’t the only one surprised.
The surrounding local people, the tourists, and the general populace had their excitement rise.
“You kidding?!” “Seriously?!” “A collaboration work with 3 heroes?!” “I will definitely go see it! Can I get tickets now?!” “I was planning on returning today, but I will cancel my train and prolong it!” “Even if I have to work as a beverage seller there, I will definitely go there and see it!!”
The street corners of Hydra Ville had become the very definition of excitement.
And then…
“…So?”
Karen-san, Mirack, and I accompanied Celestis and arrived at the Water Church’s headquarters. If we stayed there, the ruckus would prolong who knows for how long.
This is supposed to be the office of the water hero, but just now, when we passed through the door, the room plate said ‘dressing room’…
“What are two heroes doing here in my island? If you came here to pick a fight, I call pass. I will soon be having a live performance after all.” (Celestis)
“…Your way of speaking is normal.” (Haine)
“Isn’t that obvious? If I don’t divide work and private life, my shoulders would grow stiff. If my body gets stiffer, it would affect my performance as well.” (Celestis)
I don’t know if she is serious about her job or she isn’t.
And Mirack, who was brought here without a single care of her opinion, was showing clear dissatisfaction.
“…Hmph, I have heard about your indecent side job for some time now, but I didn’t think it would be this indecent. Seeing it with my own eyes almost dislocated my jaw.” (Mirack)
“Then dislocate your jaw already. If you are able to do that, I can hire you as a comedian.” (Celestis)
“What did you say?!” (Mirack)
“Yes yes, fire hero-san that gets heated immediately. By the way, why are you together with the light hero? Didn’t you girls not get along?” (Celestis)
“Ugh!”
Those words of Celestis made Mirack shut up in an instant.
That’s right. Right now, you wouldn’t even be able to imagine it, but the relationship of Karen-san and Mirack was as bad as that of a cat and dog.
But well, it was all Mirack being the wild dog here though. Those words that made her remember this, made even Mirack falter.
“……W-We formed an alliance not that long ago.” (Mirack)
“Hah? Alliance? Seriously?! That’s incredible. So that means the light and fire churches have joined arms?” (Celestis)
“No, the churches are not involved. It was an arbitrary decision by Karen and I, but even so, we thought it would be effective in dealing with the monsters you see.” (Mirack)
“I see… But it is still incredible. In the current heroes, you guys were the ones who didn’t get along the most, and yet, from all the people, you girls formed an alliance.” (Celestis)
The continuous mention of ‘not getting along’ by Celestis, was making Mirack’s face sour.
The person herself doesn’t have any ill-intentions, but those words were like body blows that were stacking the damage.
“And so, the reason you came here was to give me this report?” (Celestis)
“About that…” (Karen)
Karen-san took over for Mirack who was quite weakened already.
Karen-san has been maintaining silence since the moment she entered the room. That, on the contrary, made me have a vague fear.
“Oh, Karen as well, it has been a while~. But well, even if I say so, this is our first time having a proper chat? The rumours of the good-girl hero at the light church have reached my ears as well though.” (Celestis)
“Yes. The reason I intruded on you today was because, Celestis-san, I have an important favor to ask of you.” (Karen)
“Eh?”
“Please stop being an idol.” (Karen)
““Direct approach?!””
Mirack and I both exclaimed in unison.

  • 41: An Idol’s pride

“Hah? What are you saying?” (Celestis)
The request of Karen-san was so straightforward that Celestis visibly frowned.
“Your activities are having a bad influence on our cities. I want you to stop them.” (Karen)
Karen-san didn’t change her expression and didn’t display her emotions.
On the other hand, Celestis’ reaction was clear.
“That’s why I have been asking, what is it you are saying! My songs are providing a bad influence?! That’s not possible! Even if I look like this, I am still a hero, you know! I won’t sing unless my fans are happy!” (Celestis)
“No no, you see…!” (Karen)
To think Celestis would be enraged in such a way. It looks like she has her own concerns regarding her activities as an idol, but at this rate, their thoughts will not connect at all.
I have no choice but to step in here. And then, I supplemented the parts that were lacking in the explanation of Karen-san.
About how the popularity of the idol Celestis was having a drastical rise, and with that, the proliferation of her fans in Apollon City and Muspelheim has exploded. This turned directly into most of them joining the Water Church.
This conflicts with the agreement of proselytizing prohibition that was formed between the churches.
“Ah, I see. So that’s how it is.” (Celestis)
After saying this much, Celestis finally reached an understanding.
“In other words, my popularity is on the verge of stealing your fans, so you came here to ask me to stop it. Plain girls have it tough huh.” (Celestis)
“That’s not it.” (Karen)
Karen-san firmly answers.
“I don’t mind your idol activities in itself. The problem is that it is connecting with proselytizing. That part is making this problem complicated. So, I think there’s the need to revise this situation. For the sake of that, the methods that can be taken are two.” (Karen)
“Stop being an idol, or stop being a hero. I see, so that’s what you mean by the ‘stop being an idol’ huh.” (Celestis)
Celestis says this as if lightly warding off the pressing of Karen-san.
On top of that, Mirack stands shoulder to shoulder with Karen-san and emphasizes the criticism.
“I am also of the same opinion. That’s why I am here. In the first place, Celestis, even when you are standing as a hero, you are doing a hobby like being an idol. Aren’t you ashamed? If you are a hero, you should devote yourself to your main job as a hero. If you want to devote yourself into being an idol, you should pass over the seat of hero to someone else. The current you can’t seat in both and are half-assed.” (Mirack)
The fire hero and the light hero; these two heroes were protesting together, so the water hero couldn’t ignore it.
That was the objective when both of them came here but, will that show any effectiveness?
“…Are you stupid? That’s quite the shallow thinking you have there.” (Celestis)
It had no effect.
“Then, I will ask you this as well. What is the job of a hero?” (Celestis)
“That’s…protecting the people from the threat of monsters…” (Karen)
“That’s correct, but that’s not all.” (Celestis)
Celestis smiles suggestively.
“Heroes…fight monsters as the representatives of the church. And then, with that, they show the power of the church to them. Heroes are the face of the church, the standard bearers. Seeing that all of the five current heroes are teenage girls around their 15 makes it clear, don’t you think?” (Celestis)
Eh, is that true?
The light, fire, and water heroes here are all girls, but well, now that she mentions it, if they are going to use someone as their face, rather than a man, it would be more appealing with a cute girl.
“You see, in order to serve my job as the church’s face, I am doing my very best. That’s what an idol is. Fortunately, my fans have accepted this, and my popularity has risen. My popularity reaching outside the Water capital just means that my efforts came at play there.” (Celestis)
“But then, the other churches—!” (Karen)
“If that troubles the fire and light, that just means you are lacking in effort. Conforming with just defeating monsters. You are lacking awareness as a representative of the church. You don’t have a clear policy and are simply working without a single thought as the face of the church. All of this just means that it is now biting you in the back, that’s all.” (Celestis)
Karen-san and Mirack were unable to say anything back.
That was akin to admitting that what Celestis said was correct.
“Celestis-san…you looked like a regular idiot, but you were actually thinking about things properly huh.” (Haine)
“What’s with this man, so rude on our first meeting! Or more like, seriously, who are you?” (Celestis)
I have been following along until now like normal, but it seems Celestis had not even acknowledged my presence.
With a small self-introduction, I advance the conversation.
“Then, Celestis-san won’t show self-restraint in your idol activities and won’t show consideration to the other churches, right?” (Haine)
“Of course. Why does a person who puts in the effort have to show consideration to people who don’t put the effort?” (Celestis)
I see. Understood.
“Then it can’t be helped. We are leaving!” (Haine)

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0 thoughts on “Chapter 39-41: Water capital's daily scenery

  1. *Dondoko dondondokodon dondokodondondon*
    “?!”
    *Dondoko dondondokodon dondokodondondon*
    Reading that omnipoteia (however you spell it(sound effects)) I can’t but think of donkey kong playing his drums

  2. I love that despite being a dark god that’s been sealed away for thousands of years, he has more common sense than the average Isekai character

  3. Thx for the Chappy ~!
    Kyah~! I’m late!!
    “all of the five current heroes are teenage girls around their 15”
    Wow! All of them ARE girls. Looks like our Haine-san will catch em’ all after all.
    I can’t wait to see how will this come to be…

  4. Thanks for the chapter. 🙂
    You know I just noticed, in a backwards sort of way, did Celestis not just admit that her being an idol was a way proselytizing? She did just say that her work as an idol works to promote herself as the face of the church and fulfilling her duties as a hero. Even though arguments have been made that her activities as an idol were not a form of proselytizing, from what she just said it can still be taken that the water hero is doing so indirectly in the form of promoting herself as a member of the water church (not to mention her sex appeal).
    I think that there’s a better way to word it because in the end this argument would still end in a deadlock, but this is what I inferred from trying to read between the lines of what Celestis said, that it was indirect proselytization by the water hero in the form of her work as an idol.
    Aside from all of that, I’m gonna bet that the next step our protagonist will take will be to strike back with the same method. (A part of me hopes that we don’t delve too deeply into the idol stuff because I still love the action found in an adventure-fantasy novel, but I still look forward to how interesting this will be). 🙂

    1. Practically speaking, she basically just admitted it, so Haine could make a case for the churches to intervene.
      I don’t really see why he would want to do that though, since as far as motives go, it doesn’t bother him either way.

      1. That’s a good point, sometimes I forget that Haine’s ultimate goal is the independence of humans from Gods. In a way I had ended up thinking he had resolved himself to support the churches as he is now living as a human and is affiliated with the church of light. But with that in mind, I am very confident in predicting that Haine will take this opportunity to further separate Gods and humans.

  5. Thanks for the chapter. Lately I have thinking of the blue hair girls in anime, LN, etc. when that happens I always think of Rei Ayanami from Evangelion the first girl introduce with blue hair. When of Hydra Ville is closer describe as looking like that of Venice Italy or Water 7 in One Piece. That place who excellent place to use as beach chapter.

  6. Thanks for the chapter!
    I tried reading the raws but the chapter comes before I even finish a chapter (in Japanese)…… Is this good news or bad news? 😯

    1. Shit….. My grammar just died there….
      Basically….. When I was trying to read the raws, a new chapter comes out here…. 🙃 That’s my life now….

        1. I did that to a 1 time for the series Sayonara Ryuusei Konnichiwa Jinsei after it stopped being translated. After the few chapters trying to read it I just gave up on it. I was looking forward to the School Arc of that series.

          1. It was close to getting to the school arc. About 1 or 2 more chapters it would have started that arc.

          2. I should said the so called chapters that I tried to read that was translated was what told me that the main MC is going to school. But, since trying to read it with the so called confusing grammar I just I gave up on the series.

          3. Pity… there’s so much potential, plus it has dragons in the story (my favourite). I can’t read Japanese, Google translate would be the only source if I want to read what you told me.

          4. Yeah. I was using Google to translate. Hopefully, the manga can catch up to that arc and someone translate it. Or maybe someone will make an good anime out of it and someone will decided to translate it again. We will see. But the good thing is I just found out today that “Isekai Mahou ha Okureteru!” the LN is being translated and it caught up to vol. 5.

      1. That I agree…. But…. I’m bad with Java because he hates me…. But I think I will go and get some handcuffs so our relationship gets better 🙂
        But still…. I need to learn how to read faster so I don’t suffer on my next JLPT….. Which I hope to get until N2…. But it is a far off dream… I mean goal coz it will happen… Some how….

  7. … Savageness of MC still continue ~ !!!
    he with Straight Face call the Idol who he met for the first time is “IDIOT”…
    damn…. even he doesn’t realize that he savage as fuvk….
    his dense factor is not in “Relationship” Area but in “Savageness” area…

      1. Perhaps that’s one of traits as the Dark God? 0_0 Not really sure, but I think it’s fitting enough if the Dark God is someone who is forthright. Though it could also be said that it’s more expected that a Dark God would be cunning or menacing. In a way I guess there are many different aspects to darkness depending on your outlook.
        (But there’s no denying that he was definitely rude to someone he was meeting for the first time, but I think that side of him is great for whenever we get to the comedy parts for this series).

  8. thanks for the chapter
    time to make a band of 6 idol
    the 5 church’s heroes, plus the ‘darkness’ of idols: trap Haine!

  9. those Haine confirmation word make some goosebump, u know with blunt action but with common sense in farthest concern, u get know him better
    thanks for chap

  10. AHAHAHAHAHA! Seems like Water Hero’s rash promise of having 2 special guest for her concert backfired so bad.

    1. dunno, she will probably say the light and fire heroes annulled their presentation and the anger will be directed toward the light and fire church rather than the water one.

  11. .
     ∧__∧
    ( ´・ω・`)  (○) Thanks….
    ,( ヽ∩∩ノ),、ヽ|〃,,, Nepu……..
    “““ ““ ““ ““ ““ ““ ““ ““““

  12. Thanks 4 the translation!
    Fight fire with fire. Fight idol with idols.
    Let the war of the idols begin!
    BTW
    Idol heroes or heroic idols?

  13. Thanks for the chapters Reigokai!
    I wonder what’ll Haine do now. I hope he decides to start his own idol agency with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the idol agency.

  14. OH F*CK WHY LOL goddamn it the hell someone fix the NU line up pls suck it i read this first instead of 36-38 goddamn … . . . . . . . .

  15. Thank you Reigokai.
    Thank you. Thank you.
    Please don’t dismantle me.
    I’ll be a good Truck. Promise !
    …..
    There seems to be something weird about Goddess and Idols, peculiar to Japan only.
    In anime, manga, games, novels, etc.
    I often see authors/writers relating Goddess with idols (school/teen idols usually. I mean, they’re really worshipped. Just in different manner and meanings. Oh, this is so wrong on so many levels).
    These chapters almost confirms what I believed, that the humans started to ‘worship’ other human as (false) idols and this draws the anger and jealousy of the Gods of that world.
    …..
    Please don’t dismantle me. Please.
    I promise I’ll be good.
    A good Truck.

    1. What good truck?
      You are the bane of their soul,
      Steel is your body,
      Fire is your fuel,
      You have created over a thousand victims,
      Not known to god, nor known to gods,
      You are the source, Unlimited Isekai Genre!
      Catch my drift?

    2. Well if deities get power from getting worshipped, becoming an idol is one way to gather worshippers in this modern era.

          1. DEH is on a different counter though? And I know that the chapters are 3 web chapter fused to one. Still… I’m lonely… without… more… of… Reigokai-sama’s… works…

      1. I have, on my desk now, a voodoo doll I called Mini Reigokai. It took some effort to replicate the hair, but now it’s finished. After this, the ‘ritual’, and we’ll be set.
        I’ll make sure Reigokai always safe and healthy. Just hope that my one-eyed cat didn’t find it and …

      1. Honestly, it’s for a very simple reason. She has just stated that being an idol is something she does directly as an act of proselytizing.
        Keep in mind that the primary reason why other churches couldn’t object was because there was no clear connection between being an idol and proselytizing, so…

      2. Indifference work well against women. Also work against with narcissist which is a quality common with idols. Since she is both then it is very effective.

      3. I mean, them leaving technically is the scariest thing he could do (besides using his powers), because remember, she stated that the other heros would be at the live concert, and if they don’t appear people might get upset and leave…

      1. Psychronia, on poor poor Psychronia. Don’t you know? Common sense is always the first thing that flies out the window in the isekai-genre. So smart ideas like just leaving rarely show.

        1. No-that’s my point. Common sense is such a rarity that the ability to make sensible, rational judgements like that could legitimately be a useful power.
          Pointing out absurdities, reacting like how a normal person should react…Ooo! So the Hero’s skill would be [Tsukkomi EX].

          1. Not sure… I have a hard time deciding between Makoto for Tsuki ga and Shield bro.
            Though my least favorite is Hajime from Ariferuta since the after stories came out. Though Kousuke is actually a better MC in my opinion from when his side story came out.

          2. Really? Shieldbro is one thing, but Makoto is probably one of the most criticized characters in the Tsuki ga because he’s not too interesting, isn’t he?
            I dunno. I like him well enough, but it feels like there should be a few other names that come up before him.

          3. We are all entitled to our opinions. I liked Makoto because he had the short in of the stick in the beginning, but he decided to just do things his way regardless. Shield bro because even though he was betrayed and framed, he kept to his convictions and still tried to save those who needed saving.
            Hajime is only my least favorite. There are more MCs in the isekai-genre than can be counted, but I lost interest in him near the end of Arifureta because of his battles with that fake god. That was the only time after the beginning that he was even considered weak. I don’t mind arrogance, but he just became too arrogant for my taste. At least Makoto doesn’t have the weakness of over arrogance, and neither does shield bro.

  16. Aqua!?! HOW?
    No, no. Calm down. That can’t be right! The church is run by a shrewd, cunning god, so that appearance is just a coincidence. As if Aqua could be an ido-but wait, they’re both heavily specced in entertainment.
    With fluttery divine equipment, and then there’s the water aspect..but Celestis seems quite sharp too…
    BWAAAAH! I can’t tell whether someone’s reputation is being dragged down or lifted up here! ヽ(°□°)ノ
    …Anyway. I’m buying Celestis’s argument so far here. Isn’t the most obvious solution to have both Karen and Mirack debut as idols in the joint performance as advertised? Adding to the competition naturally means that the locals will obviously be most interested in their local hero. I can already imagine Karen singing calming music that isn’t too sophisticated and Mirack going for the rougher, shout-y genres.
    It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I want to read about them singing together at all. Nothing like that.

      1. Oh man. I would laugh if ascension to godhood is Kazuma’s wish at the end of it all.
        Then again, I’m sure they’ll find a way to make me laugh even if it wasn’t…

      1. I would say so, no matter how I look at it.
        On the one hand, the churches can’t complain about it because the defense is that “it’s not technically proselytizing”, so the heroes could potentially take this material as confirmation that it is and get the Water church to stop.
        On the other, this is the perfect opportunity for them to try to bring in followers themselves. It’s already been well-established that the churches and gods don’t get along, so this is basically an excuse to have a new type of fight with each other for dominance. Everyone’s so greedy for power that it would make more sense to go with it than not.
        As a side, this is good for Haine too, because the whole idol business is shown to promote acceptance of Ethereal machines, which stimulates human development and builds up their independence.

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