“How’s Limia?”
“It is a big country. Isn’t it a major power that is fighting over the first and second place?” (Makoto)
A vague question from Senpai.
Leaving aside that I might have answered differently If she had made a more concrete question, I gave my impressions of Limia.
I have a few bad impressions of the rampant nobles, but…if I had to give a good part of it, it would be that, honestly, I don’t have much of an impression.
“Fufufu, a major power huh. That’s true. But you see, in truth, the major power that you and I imagine are quite different. It is also a half-hearted country.” (Hibiki)
“Half-hearted?” (Makoto)
I don’t think a major power can be half-hearted.
It is a major power because many people live there, right?
In that case, it wouldn’t be able to function as a country without a superior system supporting it.
“For example, the population, Makoto-kun, how much do you think is the population of Limia?” (Hibiki)
P-Population?
This is a topic I have not cared at all for since coming to this world.
“…The territory of Limia is wide, so maybe around the ten millions or hundred millions?” (Makoto)
Looking at its territory only, I don’t think it would be strange for them to have at least this much.
“The correct answer is: I don’t know.” (Hibiki)
“Hah?”
What’s with that?
Isn’t that cheating?
“In this world, there’s practically no country –including Limia– that has a clear grasp of their population. From what I know, the only one that has a grasp on it is Tsige. Moreover, the ones in possession of the information were not government officials of the country, but a single company.” (Hibiki)
Seriously?
One company?
…I feel like there’s only one who fits the bill.
I wonder if he has a grasp on the population even in the current sudden increases it is having, Rembrandt-san.
“It is most likely difficult…probably.” (Makoto)
A grasp on the number of people…inhabitant’s ballot, no, a census huh.
Wait, it should have existed in Japan since quite a long time ago though…
In other words, it shouldn’t be difficult?
Unless it is quite the chaotic era.
This world is currently in war, but thinking about the time in which it began in my previous world, it wouldn’t be strange for them to be able to do it.
If we are talking about a chaos that made the document burn in fire and had the minds of people agitated to the point of being unable to keep things like that in mind, it would be…the revolution at the Ounin era, maybe?
In the past, even when I investigated in my free time about that era, I couldn’t understand it well.
The enemies became allies, and even when the Heads of both powers were affiliated to the same camp, the battle continued, and by the time I noticed, it was already the Sengoku period.
I don’t think this world is in the same state.
“They don’t have the will to do so, they don’t find any reason to do it; it is just because of that. They just report about an approximate of the harvest, and from that report, they decide the tax. With a system like that, there’s little point in keeping the population number in check.” (Hibiki)
“I-I see.” (Makoto)
They decide the tax by the land huh.
It is certainly true that by doing that, they are able to leave the rest to the nobles.
I feel like they are just pushing all the responsibility away though, but if the income is properly coming in, it doesn’t seem to be a problem.
“But if a country is thinking about obtaining power, it is a topic that can’t be ignored. And in truth, I would say that Limia’s population is around 50 million to 70 million, but the tax yields are only around half of that number. So it is like they can avoid tax as much as they want.” (Hibiki)
“Half… The remaining would be embezzlement huh.” (Makoto)
Limia is practically a despotism of nobles after all.
“Yeah. I am sorry about asking for a consent after the fact, but we are currently utilizing your help in order to improve this part.” (Hibiki)
“Me?” (Makoto)
Did I do something?
“It was a real help. Thanks.” (Hibiki)
“No well, I don’t have much awareness of this, but if I was of help…that’s great. Or more like, Senpai, you are even doing things like improvements?” (Makoto)
I feel like this has to do with the very foundations of the country.
“Improvement is a special skill from Japan after all. There’s no way I wouldn’t use it just because I am in a parallel world, right? I brought out the topic of population as an example, but there’s a lot of things that can be changed in this world for the better.” (Hibiki)
Isn’t that saying too much?
Improvement isn’t something only Japan does, it is done in the whole planet Earth.
“Well it is not like it shouldn’t be used but…it seems like you are putting a lot of zeal into this country.” (Makoto)
“…This is the country I have been summoned in.” (Hibiki)
“I know that.” (Makoto)
“It is the country where I know the most people, and the country where the most people know of me. It is the country that has placed their expectations on me. Isn’t it a matter of course that I think deeply of it?” (Hibiki)
“Sorry.” (Makoto)
I felt like I was being criticized, so I ended up apologizing.
Well, I also think deeply of Asora, so it should be about the same.
If it’s that, I feel like I can understand.
Different from Asora, Limia is connected by land with other countries and if there’s enemies, they can get attacked though.
“…I want you to like this country as well. Is it…difficult to desire that?” (Hibiki)
…
The eyes of Senpai were dyed in seriousness.
“Makoto-kun, this world and the Goddess, it is certainly true that it is very different from the common sense of our original world. There’s definitely things that you can’t just accept and things that are unreasonable.” (Hibiki)
“…”
“I know that you don’t hold positive feelings towards the Goddess. At this occasion, I won’t tell you to throw those away. Just that, for the sake of finishing this long war… can’t you please lend us your strength? Of course, I won’t be telling you to learn of war either. It is fine to supply us with goods at a suitable price.” (Hibiki)
“…”
So she is telling me to supply the goods of Limia huh.
If it’s to lend strength to Senpai only, it would be a different case, but if I were to cooperate in supplying the goods in order to finish the war, it would mean that I have taken the side of hyumans.
Meaning that, even if it’s indirectly, I am participating in the war.
Yeah, can’t do.
There’s no choice but to refuse.
“…How about it?” (Hibiki)
“Sorry, I can’t. If it’s just selling things to Senpai personally, I wouldn’t mind though.” (Makoto)
“I see. So you won’t be cooperating ‘for the sake of putting an end to the war’ huh.” (Hibiki)
…Ah.
Even I could tell that Senpai emphasized the words at the latter half.
So they are already suspecting that I have a connection with the demon race huh.
They don’t have any positive proof of it, so they can’t ask about this crime though.
“I’m thinking on opening the doors of Kuzunoha Company to all that need it. Please let me cooperate in the sense of neutrality.” (Makoto)
“You see, Makoto-kun…I don’t think that all the actions of the Goddess are correct.” (Hibiki)
“?!!”
Senpai?!
No wait, isn’t that something a hero shouldn’t say?!
“She is not the ‘God’ that we think of. She has a personality, and individuality. I have not heard of the existence of other Gods in this world aside from her, so it shouldn’t be wrong to say that she is the only God though.” (Hibiki)
“…”
That’s right. There’s no way I would accept something like that as a God.
The God that Senpai is talking about is probably the almighty one.
That kind of God, I have not met one either.
But…I do think that there’s no way it is okay to leave that Goddess do as she pleases.
“The existence that manages and watches over this world. The Gods that exist are probably people that do these kind of jobs. Honestly, even now, I still think that she is a woman with problems in her personality.” (Hibiki)
“Senpai…” (Makoto)
“But Makoto-kun, no matter the existence she is, she lives in a different place from us, in other words, an existence that has nothing to do with us, you know? Even for us, the day we met that night was the last. Until then, I didn’t believe in the existence of God. In other words, isn’t she only an existence that we met in a mere instant of our short lives?” (Hibiki)
“…”
“What will you do by maintaining that feeling of defeat inside of you? It is like having complains about the laws and phenomenons that naturally exist in the world. Isn’t it pointless?” (Hibiki)
“Why did Senpai…?” (Makoto)
“Eh?” (Hibiki)
“Why did Senpai come to this world? Even though you had a life of success secured over there.” (Makoto)
I don’t understand at all.
“You want to know the reason why I came to this world?” (Hibiki)
“Yeah.” (Makoto)
“You are interested in the reason of why someone like me, who shouldn’t have any relation to this world to begin with, would come to this world?” (Hibiki)
“!”
Does Senpai know?
The fact that the two being summoned was the fault of me and my parents.
“…Because I thought it was interesting.” (Hibiki)
“That’s the main reason?” (Makoto)
“Well, it is not like I don’t hold any feelings of wanting to return to my life in Japan. However, at that time, at that instant, I certainly did feel that being in a parallel world was appealing. That’s why I am here. In the end, the whole reason I am here is because of the feelings of that instant. From then, I created connections in this world more and more, and I can no longer separate from it so easily.” (Hibiki)
“Feelings of that instant.” (Makoto)
So Senpai currently doesn’t have intentions of going back then.
I can sense that from her.
Even though she said she wanted to return a bit, I couldn’t feel a single trace of homesickness from Senpai’s words.
“The Empire’s Tomoki must be the same. Well, if the Goddess had asked him the previous day or the day after, his answer might have differed. There’s plenty possibility that different heroes would be summoned, and he and I would currently be living a peaceful life in Japan.” (Hibiki)
“…”
Right.
At that day, in just that instant, the two decided to become heroes.
A decision is a decision.
But if we were to call it a thoroughly thought decision, as expected, that wouldn’t be the case.
“It is not like I am blaming Makoto-kun. Don’t make that face. Let me advance the topic. In this world, the interference of God is not something definite or anything like that. This world will most likely change more and more. If we can finish the war soon and calm down the quarrel between hyumans and demons, we would be able to use that much time in changing the world.” (Hibiki)
“Change…the world?” (Makoto)
“That’s right. It can’t be done easily, but I think it is possible to create a society where hyumans and demi-humans don’t discriminate each other.” (Hibiki)
Reforming the very thinking of hyumans then?
But as long as the foundation of that thinking lies in the teachings of the goddess, I think it is impossible.
Even in the teachings of the Spirits, they are told that demi-humans are existences below hyumans, you know?
“Even if you are a hero, isn’t that way too idealistic? This is a world where a big number of hyumans follow a religion that goes against that very ideal of yours.” (Makoto)
“Isn’t Makoto-kun showing that possibility yourself? In Rotsgard and Tsige. It is possible to wake up the hyuman society as a whole with those actions, right? I don’t think the Goddess would be able to forcefully amend the people that want to change themselves. I have investigated decades of activities from her, but she herself is docile and simply has a deep affection for beautiful hyumans, and she doesn’t punish hyumans that hold a different way of thinking from what she wills. At least in public it is known in that way.” (Hibiki)
So Senpai is trying to change the Goddess’ world from the inside?
But if that’s the case, her thinking should be close to mine, and yet, why is it that I feel like Senpai is so far away?
“In that case, Senpai, even if the Goddess doesn’t exist anymore in this world, for example; even if a different God were to take her place, you wouldn’t mind, right?” (Makoto)
Well, even if I say a different God, I don’t have a specific God in mind though.
I am just saying and see how she reacts.
But if Senpai does think that way, I thought that maybe it would be possible to form a cooperative relationship with her.
If she thinks that a society where demi-humans don’t face discrimination is better, it would be possible to speak with the demons as well.
“…Even if the Goddess is gone?” (Hibiki)
“F-Figuratively speaking.” (Makoto)
In the case that I actually fight her, win, and punish her, I don’t know if the Goddess will continue managing this world as always.
In that case, I thought that since a God is gone, there would be a different God coming to fill her place.
“If it doesn’t have any effect on the world at all, I wouldn’t mind. Just that…” (Hibiki)
“Just that…?” (Makoto)
“If the Goddess is gone, the Spirits that work as her servants will be gone, and then she -the manager of this world- would be gone. Who knows what kind of effect would bring to the magic power that serves as the nucleus of this world. On top of that, the blessings and divine protection will disappear and the status of the Church will fall. There’s also the fear that the very teachings of the Goddess will be thrown away as well.” (Hibiki)
“…”
I didn’t think that far ahead.
Because I didn’t care at all about what would happen to this world after the Goddess lost her power or at worst, died.
It is fine to just bring the people that want refuge into Asora first, and in the first place, it is a world that existed even when the Goddess wasn’t there.
It seems like people like Root where there at that time, so I think that it won’t go to the point of being impossible to live in.
That’s why I didn’t think further than that.
But it seems like Senpai had thought about the things that would happen if the Goddess were to fall.
“Even if, for argument’s sake, it turns peaceful at that time, the world will instantly fall into great chaos, and there’s an incredibly high chance that hell will break loose. Especially the hyumans that had received the affection of the Goddess, there’s the chance that the other races will view them as enemies.” (Hibiki)
“It is certainly true that there’s the chance.” (Makoto)
Or more like, it will definitely turn out that way.
The blessing will be gone, so leaving aside the people that have true strength, most of the hyumans will be facing a hard time.
Also, if the common language disappears, it might turn into a mess, like the Tower of Babel.
They wouldn’t be able to create a big country like now, so the hegemony of the world will probably be changed to another race.
“If you are saying you have a method that will not show a single effect like that to the world, I don’t mind.” (Hibiki)
“Then if there’s an effect like what Senpai has stated?” (Makoto)
“Even if it costs me my life, I will go against it.” (Hibiki)
“…Even if it costs you your life?” (Makoto)
“If there’s someone planning something like that, it would be the same as the demon race; a world-class terrorist. Ruthlessly cornering the people that are living in peace and taking away their lives. It is enough to call it pure evil. The ones facing the most damage would be the hyumans, but the demi-humans will also be involved with no exception.” (Hibiki)
“Terrorist. The demons are a different race, they possess a country, and are opponents that you are fighting in war. Even though you are doing war with them, you call them in that way. Aren’t you a bit too prejudiced?” (Makoto)
Terrorist is a word I didn’t expect.
To call the war with the demons terrorism…
“Yeah. It is like a war brought by the minority that knew that no matter what they tried, they wouldn’t be able to reign supreme against the majority. That’s probably why the Goddess got impatient and called the heroes.” (Hibiki)
“The demon race is the minority?” (Makoto)
I imagine the conflicts and invasions of places like Russia and China.
I remember the words of Zef.
If I remember correctly, he said that the demon race population is at most 1 million or 1.5 million.
If Limia has several millions just like Senpai said, the hyuman population is most likely more than 4 times that.
They are called the four major powers, so I was expecting that though.
So if it’s 50 million, then 200 million?
Two hundred million against a few millions.
If the other demi-humans are added to the equation, would it turn into the ten millions?
The demon race units are originally composed by mixed races.
No, even with that, it would still be an incredibly low number compared to hyumans.
Whichever the case, this is not on the level of war.
Just like Senpai said, this is on the level of a small insurrection.
Even if we take into account that this world counts more the quality than the quantity, it is honestly incredible that the demon race is putting up a good fight.
“If the demon race request of it, it would bring the denial of the Goddess and her retribution…Well, it wouldn’t go so far, but they should at least be able to seek a better treatment. What they are doing is denying the very social system of this world they have been living in.” (Hibiki)
“They could have gone into extinction if they hadn’t done that.” (Makoto)
“You really take the side of demons here.” (Hibiki)
“I have seen something that made me realize just how severe the Goddess’ discrimination was, after all. Then, the actions of the demon race were brought by the need of surviving.” (Makoto)
“Yeah, their raising of an army in this occasion was probably something unavoidable.” (Hibiki)
“Then—!” (Makoto)
“That means it is already too late. They had to do something before it turned out that way. To better that scorned environment they had even if for a bit, they should have tried to make the hyumans accept them. With a method aside from taking arms, that is.” (Hibiki)
No way, that’s asking for too much.
Regarding the demon race, it was practically as if the Goddess made the first move telling them to go away and cornered them.
“Isn’t that just asking for too much?” (Makoto)
“I have taken a look at the history of demons and hyumans. Of course, this was from the historical records of hyumans, so there’s most likely bias there though. Just that, there haven’t been much events where the demons have acted in a positive way towards hyumans. And within those small number of people, there’s not a single one that has continued for long.” (Hibiki)
“History. The history between hyumans and demons.” (Makoto)
I only know rough details of it.
“For the demons, hyumans are an overwhelming majority, moreover, it is collected in a single religion, it is also an opponent that has better individual battle power, you know? From the beginning, the choice of fighting was not something sane.” (Hibiki)
“…Right.” (Makoto)
Because of the blessing of the Goddess, the demon race was also being overpowered by hyumans in the magic power side as well, so there was no good part in it.
The more I think about it, the more impressed I am by the demons being able to put up a good fight against the hyumans.
Well, it is not like they have been doing war forever. They were mostly enduring the discrimination and oppression.
“But the demons fought with the hyumans several times, lost, and still, they haven’t changed their way of dealing with things.” (Hibiki)
“…”
“They should have had several opportunities to. The chance to enter within hyumans just like the demi-humans.” (Hibiki)
“Eh?” (Makoto)
“If it were me, that’s what I would do. If it’s a big opponent and I am unable to do anything about it with our power, I would join them and change them from the inside. I would create an opportunity to enter, and then, manage something from there. Isn’t that one of the few choices that the minority has in order to survive?” (Hibiki)
“Are you saying that they should live amidst hyumans as slaves?” (Makoto)
“…Even if it’s a starting line from a slave position, it is possible to crawl their way up. But they took arms to the very end. I don’t have the intention of wiping them all out, but if we don’t corner them to that very limit to show an example, no one would be able to accept it. At the very least, we would have to eliminate the people that are managing their country, their army, and the ones cooperating with them; every one of them.” (Hibiki)
“Accept it, you say. Isn’t that also because of the warped teachings of the Goddess?” (Makoto)
If only she hadn’t tainted this world with her stupid teachings, this wouldn’t have turned out this way.
The existence of that Goddess is the main reason for this problem, so they probably have to confront her at some point in time.
In that case, even if it will somewhat trouble the people that are currently living, isn’t it a lot better to just eliminate that Goddess that has spread this strange way of thinking?
“The warped teachings of the Goddess huh. But that is the religion that all the world follows, you know. Isn’t that the same as having an overwhelming minority taking arms?” (Hibiki)
“Then you are saying that they should resign to their fate? That the teachings of the Goddess can’t be helped, and it also can’t be helped that the demon race is rendered impossible to stand back up? That because they didn’t conform with those conditions quickly and become slaves for the sake of surviving, it can’t be helped that they are receiving a worse treatment than that? Is that what you think, Senpai?” (Makoto)
I am kind of pissed here.
No matter who, if they are being oppressed, they would want to make a complain or two.
To expect those kind of people to calmly look at the situation, think of the future, and find a good way for the race to survive, something like that…who would be able to blame them for being unable to do that?
To be able to act composedly no matter when, that’s not something that anyone could do.
Thinking that way, I unconsciously spoke to Senpai in a harsh tone.
“That’s right.” (Hibiki)
“!!”
It is not like I thought Senpai would make a troubled expression…but I thought she would at least show hesitation.
The instant answer of Senpai blocked my words.
“I said this just a few moments ago but, the demon race and the hyumans are already in a situation where it is already too late. Without a closure for this war, neither of the races will be able to advance. That’s how much hatred is gathered between both sides. Of course, I who has been fighting alongside Limia, am no exception. The Goddess’ teachings, their dependence to her, the discrimination towards demi-humans; all these problems are problems that can only be dealt with after this war is over. This one point is impossible to move or change anymore. No one is able to.” (Hibiki)
“No one…” (Makoto)
Is that true?
If it is the Kuzunoha Company that has a connection with both, wouldn’t it be able to work out somehow?
…No.
Before that, wouldn’t things change a lot if I just had that Bug reflect?
“No one. Even for Makoto, that’s impossible. The hyumans that had their family taken away by demons had their hatred grow inside of themselves, and that hatred becomes the fangs that point towards them. It is the same for the demons that had their family taken away by hyumans. This chain of losses….can’t be erased.” (Hibiki)
Senpai made a pained expression for an instant.
The current Senpai is as cold as ice, and she is speaking with an indifferent expression, so that one instant remained in my mind.
Memories can’t be erased huh.
Rotsgard has become a lot easier to live in, but it is certainly true that it would be hard to erase that memory.
The more there are, the higher the amount of deaths there will be after all.
“Hatred and sadness. It is not something that easily disappears. I…can understand that.” (Makoto)
As I thought, I should do something quick about that Goddess.
Senpai seems to be worried about the later, but in the end, if the Goddess remains, the current state of things won’t change.
I will have to revise my attitude towards Bug.
“The demons who are the minority, are going against the overwhelming majority which are the hyumans, and the Goddess. This revolution that terrorists have raised which the majority of the people in this world didn’t wish for, this madness of a war, I will end it as soon as possible. Makoto-kun, I will say it again. Lend us your power, please.” (Hibiki)
Senpai lowers her head deeply.
But my thoughts won’t change.
Actually, I think that Senpai is over-thinking this in a way too realistic of a manner.
In this world that the Goddess does whatever she wants, I don’t feel like they would be able to change their sense of worth even if they took their time trying.
“…Senpai, I will say it again as well. I refuse.” (Makoto)
“Let me say this frankly, the stance that you Kuzunoha Company are taking can bring advantage to the demon race. The act of providing goods to both sides in a war, is an act of a merchant asking for a death sentence, you know? Is the Kuzunoha Company wishing for war and looking to gain profit from it?” (Hibiki)
“No. I also think that it would be better if the war didn’t exist. Just that, I think that the whole reason for this is that Goddess, and if only we could make her change her way of thinking, there would be as many methods born from it.” (Makoto)
“What do you mean? Even if the Goddess is the cause, what does Makoto-kun plan on doing?” (Hibiki)
“It is not wrong that the policy of the Kuzunoha Company is to welcome anyone that needs it, but…I personally think it would be better to drag down that Goddess once.” (Makoto)
“Drag down the Goddess…” (Hibiki)
Senpai makes a short mutter and turned speechless.
“It is certainly true that the world will fall into a temporal chaos, and it might put a limit to the magic that magicians can use. It might turn into an End of the Century situation between hyumans and demi-humans, but even with that, I think that the best plan is to kick that woman out from the God position she has been lying on.” (Makoto)
“…How?” (Hibiki)
“Well, by force.” (Makoto)
“By force, you say. The opponent is a God you know? Even if, for argument’s sake, you were to overpower her, would you be able to substitute for her?!” (Hibiki)
“Overpower? I don’t know about that, but I don’t intend to become the replacement of her.” (Makoto)
“Then you will simply eliminate a God?” (Hibiki)
Senpai held her head and shook it aimlessly.
No no no, I don’t plan on eliminating her.
I was thinking that it would be fine to just leave her a bit further from half-dead.
I am still alive after all, and the reason why I met with Tomoe and the others was in part because of that Bug.
“No well, she is not the only God out there, so as we do our stuff, a substitute will come, probably.” (Makoto)
“…You speak as if you have met other Gods. Well, I have been brought to a strange place with a shady individual though.” (Hibiki)
“How to say it, I have met with a God-sama that seems to be an acquaintance of that Goddess.” (Makoto)
“…That’s why you are saying that you will be changing that Goddess’ way of thinking by force? Without thinking at all about the repercussions that it can cause.” (Hibiki)
“If something happens, we can just take refuge until things settle down.” (Makoto)
“You are really indifferent at the crisis of hyumans. You don’t discriminate demi-humans, but you discriminate hyumans huh.” (Hibiki)
?!!
No no!
I am not discriminating hyumans.
“I am not discriminating demi-humans or hyumans.” (Makoto)
“…You are seriously saying that. Then this is serious.” (Hibiki)
“What do you mean?” (Makoto)
“From Makoto-kun’s speech and conduct, you are flickering your thoughts that it can’t be helped since the hyumans have done whatever they wanted along with the Goddess.” (Hibiki)
“Well, it is true that the hyumans have done whatever they wanted for so long, right?” (Makoto)
That’s not discrimination, it is the truth.
“Yeah, but to give a cold reception because of that, isn’t that considered discrimination?” (Hibiki)
“Hyumans are the strong ones that overwhelm this world with their numbers. Why would the word discrimination apply for them?” (Makoto)
Isn’t discrimination something done by society’s strong ones over the weak ones?
“And so what?” (Hibiki)
“Eh?”
“Are you saying that even if someone were to discriminate rulers, it wouldn’t be considered discrimination? The gazes that the hyumans direct towards demi-humans is peculiar, but have you noticed? Makoto-kun, at times, you have directed those kind of gazes towards hyumans. Even here, and at Rotsgard as well.” (Hibiki)
“Ugh…” (Makoto)
If she brings out gazes, I can’t say I am conscious of it.
But if I am asked if it is okay to show discriminating actions towards the strong, I would say it is not.
“Hey Makoto-kun, in the structure of this world, you and I are considered outsiders, right? In that case, not taking into account the past history and coming in contact with the hyumans and demi-humans in equal grounds, isn’t that how a person that doesn’t discriminate would act? If there’s a person that’s troubled in front of you, shouldn’t you be stretching out your hand no matter the way that person has been living until now and their social standing? For hyumans, they have done whatever they have wanted, so they should suck it up; for demi-humans, they are pitiful, so help them. Isn’t that what you would call discrimination towards hyumans?” (Hibiki)
“But the hyumans have been utilizing the demi-humans as their servants, and they have been living shouldering this. In the first place, there’s no way I would be able to look at them with eyes like those of a Saint.” (Makoto)
“That’s why. You end up thinking that way because you are thinking with our common sense. This is not Japan, this is a parallel world. In the common sense of this world, hyumans and demi-humans are this way. In the first place, the demon race has picked a fight against that common sense and have brought about a war, you know?” (Hibiki)
“…That’s a mistaken common sense.” (Makoto)
“As a Japanese, that is. Your basis for your cold reception towards hyumans is something that’s natural common sense, and most people would not understand being criticized for it. Even in hyumans, when in situations between other hyumans, where you take out the attitude towards demi-humans and their attachment to beauty, they are people that properly hate discrimination.” (Hibiki)
“Even if you take out things that shouldn’t be taken out, it won’t make me accept it.” (Makoto)
“To change their root cognition, there’s the need for time, which would have to be after the war is over. But if there’s Makoto-kun who wants to do that by force against the Goddess, it would all end up crumbling.” (Hibiki)
“Not really. I might lose, and it is okay for Senpai to just continue doing war. I will be moving with my own thoughts. Even if it’s Senpai, I won’t be affirming everything you say and obeying it.” (Makoto)
“If you were to lose, that would be…” (Hibiki)
Senpai places both arms on the handrail and bends her body.
“…There’s plenty chance for it to happen. Even if she is like that, she is still a God after all.” (Makoto)
Words leaked out from Senpai who had her face hidden, a mutter of expectation for me to lose.
From the conversation until now, I could tell that it would be a pleasant development for her.
I am slightly shocked, but it can’t be helped.
Senpai seems to be entirely against the idea of me fighting the Goddess after all.
Even so, I am practically not thinking about the effects that will bring forth to the world like Senpai said.
I refuse managing a world like this, and I don’t want to become a God either.
Instead of arranging such pointless things, it is much more important to find a method to return to my original world with Tomoe and the others while being able to go back and forth to Asora.
“I can’t imagine you losing.” (Hibiki)
As if resenting me, Senpai turned a sulking face towards me.
“W-Well, thanks.” (Makoto)
“Things like being too far away, the scale being too much, or the numbers being way too many; I know that I can’t do anything about those, but this is the first time I have felt that no matter what I do, I won’t be able to surpass an individual. Even if I went at full power in my current self.” (Hibiki)
The full power of the current Senpai huh.
As I thought, maybe she has obtained some power like that of Sakai.
Even if that’s not the case, there’s definitely something.
“No well, Senpai was also strong, you know. It was like ‘as expected of a hero’.” (Makoto)
“Even though you were not serious at all. Heh~, then, between me and the Demon Lord, who is stronger?” (Hibiki)
“…If I were to fight the Demon Lord, I would be able to answer you.” (Makoto)
“Then, what about Io, White One?” (Hibiki)
“…With that strong attack power, maybe you can win against Io?” (Makoto)
To fight with that person, it would depend on how well you can surpass that regeneration power of his after all.
But if you were to try and go until he is unable to regenerate, it would turn into an incredible endurance battle.
I think there would be the need to finish the fight in one go.
Senpai has faced painful experiences with him, right?
If I remember correctly, she has close to a terrible affinity against him.
But if it’s the current Senpai, she might be able to defeat him.
Thinking about it that way, she is a dangerous one.
Because that means she is stronger than that scary-looking giant.
“Receiving the input of the White One, I feel my confidence strengthening. That guy…is someone I have to win against no matter what, after all.” (Hibiki)
“I see.” (Makoto)
After meeting several times in the battlefield, something like destiny is born, maybe.
I don’t have much of those.
Aside from that Goddess.
“Hm.”
Senpai releases the handrail, and stretches her body upright.
Maybe because of her experience in kendo, Senpai’s posture is good.
“So that means Kuzunoha Company and Raidou are the allies of everyone in trouble, right? Okay, I got it.” (Hibiki)
“Hah?” (Makoto)
I-Is that okay?
That helps me out though.
No matter how much she asks me to cooperate with Limia, I won’t be nodding after all.
“On top of that, I have learned that you are a troublesome person that is fully antagonistic towards the Goddess. Well, about that, I will keep it a secret for you though.” (Hibiki)
“…Thanks.” (Makoto)
“The Goddess probably hasn’t heard of it either after all. With the capital having been raided, leaving aside the blessing and divine protection, there has been practically no reaction from her. What she is thinking is a mystery.” (Hibiki)
No reaction?
In other words, she hasn’t answered the calls of the Church or the heroes?
The attack to the capital…I see, it is around the time when that Goddess met with those Gods.
Did they make some sort of agreement that’s making her unable to move?
I have not been told the details of it, so…
“We have done a strange talk as well, but yeah. Tentatively speaking, I would like to eliminate the influence and distortion of the Goddess, and having you know that is plenty enough for today.” (Hibiki)
“It sounds like you feel it will be in a pretty far future though.” (Makoto)
A long time after we die, that is.
Maybe that’s why I felt Senpai so distant.
The objectives that Senpai shoulders are not things that she always tries to resolve herself.
She resolves them bit by bit, and if it isn’t possible with her, she places that job to the future generation.
“We are a race that can transfer their feelings, you know. By doing that, we are able to turn time into our allies as well. Trying to do everything by yourself in your own era can bring about pointless pain and can distort your objective.” (Hibiki)
“What you have decided to do yourself should be accomplished by oneself. I think that’s something splendid. Time can fade memories, and there’s no assurance that the next generation will hold the same feelings as you after all.” (Makoto)
“So you won’t think about moving as a whole…you won’t believe in this world’s society as you act huh.” (Hibiki)
“Just like how Senpai taught me, in my foundation, there’s most likely some discriminating feelings towards hyumans. I think that’s what it means to understand the words, but being unable to accept it. Even if Senpai tells me to believe in their change, I just can’t. Sorry.” (Makoto)
“…It isn’t something that can be immediately eliminated right after understanding it. It isn’t something you need to apologize for either. From now on, I will be counting on you as a customer of yours, Makoto-kun.” (Hibiki)
“Yes…here as well.” (Makoto)
We look close, but Senpai and I are distant.
I didn’t want to know of it, but I ended up knowing it.
This is different from the disgust I felt towards Tomoki, like a disparity of not wanting something like this to happen.
Senpai accepts the current world of that Goddess.
On top of that, she is trying to tell the world about this sense of discomfort and trying to change it slowly.
She is aware that it will take an enormous amount of time.
Without caring about those kind of things, I am thinking that it is natural for me to want to have the Goddess reflect as soon as possible and have the hyumans and demi-humans enter an equal relationship.
Without caring about how much or how many consequences it might bring.
From this world and this Goddess’ perspective…I probably do look like a fiendish terrorist…
Even so, if I can simply find a method to return to my world in a desirable way, I think I would act.
For the sake of fighting once with the Goddess.
I wonder, if that time comes, will I end up fighting Senpai?
I don’t think a fight against that person and me will come to a conclusion, but if possible, I would want to avoid having Senpai point a sword at me.
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Thanks for the chapter.
They both make good points when it comes to discrimination, but the whole reason for the war is the demon race are backed into the corner of extinction. Saying that change can come afterwards in a war of complete annihilation, Hibiki hasn't thought this through much either.
Just my personal opinion.
If there are only 1 million demons and 200 million humans than it's probably impossible for demons to kill all the humans. Just from the perspective of logistics.
And humans probably wouldn't kill ALL the demons either. Just make them into slaves probably, like with demi-humans. Well... probably.
I don't think she understands what the stakes are. It's difficult for someone from our world to comprehend a war like this. There's wars of attrition, wars for land, and wars for religions, and while it's said to "destroy everything and everyone" we've never really just slaughtered entire populations, at least, not in the last few millennia. It can't be easy for anyone to visualize this kind of war. Even I find myself thinking that one side or the other would stop before it got to the slaughter of noncombatant women and children.
While it isn't a war, we Humans do engage in annihilation of other species, for one reason or another. They may be "just" animals to us, but we have already killed many species to extinction, and have come close to it with many others, and the Hyumans do view the Demons along the lines of animals / lower species.
The only difference is, that we have reached a point where the animals can't fight back against us.
And all our genocidal wars are against fellow humans (at least that we know of). Who ever the winner is, humanity will go on. This is species against species, if left to go to its conclusion, one will go extinct.
She probably does not want that but she will insist that any peace discussion must start from the weaker demon side and must be under the stronger hyuman terms. This is where difference in views comes from where demons views it as war for survival while hyumans views it as insurrection and they need to teach them a lesson. Diplomacy is out of the table from demons side and we also see Zef suppressing the moderate factions that wants to start diplomacy.
I mean, I just sort of simplify the war to a fight between two individuals.
Unlike fights over resources or anything like that where the loser just slips off licking their wounds while the winner enjoys the spoils, this is a fight to the death where the winner doesn't stop until the loser is no longer breathing.
It's an equally horrific concept on a more comprehensible level.
I can understand why she can't comprehend this though. She's a 19 year old girl from modern day Japan. The closest I can imagine to a war of extinction hasn't really been seen since the time that city-states were the largest population centers. And with that, the victors killed every male old enough to hold a weapon, and forced the females and every male under 10 to convert to the victor's religion and culture. I'm a military history buff, and I can't comprehend a war of extinction on this level. How can I expect Hibiki to? The only things that I can is what the Israelites did to their enemies at their god's command, and even that only happened once or twice, if at all.
And if I understand that part of the Bible right, even the Isrealites didn't really understand it, considering how bad they were at actually doing it.
Well she thought demon race cant be helped anymore so she didnt mind they are dead while makoto think they can be helped.
In This Chapter:
Makoto is basically PETA, while Hibiki is a high-ranking company slave who dreams of changing her Black Company from the inside.
Makoto is more of BLM supporters for me while Hibiki is a conservative politician. Hibiki's argument all links to slow reform and status quo preservation which is kinda on same line of conservative thinking.
Peta euthanise a lot of pets......,
Makoto is PETA because he supports the wellbeing of other species while saying that humans (well, hyumans) should suffer for what they done.
Hibiki is a company slave in a demihuman-exploiting company because she's too jaded to think that her company can change by being told directly, and thus instead follows orders while persuading other people as she climbs rank. I guess it is basically a conservative politician's POV, but that analogy isn't as silly, haha
And the Company President is an immortal who may, at most, humor Hibiki while she is working for the company and then likely go back to her (the President's) shady shenanigans after Hibiki's gone.
Seriously, how do you enact generational change when (as Hibiki herself admitted) the immortal God of an almost universally believed religion will work against you, at latest, right after your death? All Bug needs to do is continue her "non-Hyumans are lessers" message after Hibiki is dead...or at soonest, after she kills the demons. How could Hibiki keep hero Hero image up if she disagrees with the revered Godess' teachings, after all?
lol that PP nice hammer time for gilgamesh
Kill the goddess!!!(x3)
Be orsted sealing hitogami!
I love this,I hope he unites the dragons and other ancients,and challenge the goddess to a battle and kill or seal her
And Thanks for the tl!
Thanks for the chapter, it was fun~ can't wait for when Hibiki starts her plan to sacrifice 1000 people to send Makoto back to earth, I want to see what Makoto will do! ..... Ok I sound awful but I really am curious of what he'll think of her then, or maybe what he thinks of her would have already changed before that event?
The dragon was quite clear that the recall summon thing would require Makoto's approval.So even if she wanted to it's pointless.
And I'm sure that Makoto can do it with his own magical power without needing sacrifices. Same as the Goddess can.
only works when he agrees, was mentioned several times .
I doubt about such a method will work, The HEAD of the superior dragons said it was close to impossible, i doubt a random ritual would work.
And ACK Hibiki is already dyed in the bug colors, so reasoning with her is impossible, maybe it wouldnt work that way before Naval's death, people keep telling Makoto is the unreasonable one, but at least he tries to minimize his bias toward hyumans, As another cheat MC of a certain WN said while scolding some wannabe heroes, Have you ever tried to explore and see the point of view of the demons ?
and also dont forget, the recalling ritual need the consent of the ritual target to be send back
she said she already know both side of the force but mostly she only 'know' the side of hyuman 'good' ,she know the demon 'mostly' on their fighting against her , she didnt even bother to check the truth between the history that she read, basically for me she just in denial and only approve the fact that she deem good for her own agenda
Whoa that's a really thought provoking chapter. Hibiki really has a strange mindset in my view anyways. I can see how Makoto is pissed though since the goddess discriminated against him the moment he stepped into this dimension.
I really don't know how much longer he can stay neutral though since sooner or later some war is going to happen somewhere where his friends or someone he knows is going to get hurt in a way.
Hibiki is protecting the interest of Limia. Makoto is protecting the interest of Asora. And the Demon Lord is protecting the interest of the demons. For Limia and the demons, they are fighting for survival. Makoto just want to be left alone and do his stuff. And unlike most neutral forces in history he can enforce his neutrality. If either sides harm his people he's going to crush them. The demons got the message. Let's see if Limia does.
It would be funny if the hyumans receive a message from the demons. "Please don't provoke the Kuzunoha Company! We'll both lose if the world is destroyed."
His action as a whole can still be classified as neutral. However his views are definitely leaning toward demi-humans and demons while thinking hyumans can solve everything because they're so strong (which is fallacy)
I mean, that's still being neutral. Makoto's like a superboss level roaming mob in a game that won't aggro until you attack him.
If his friends are attacked...well...he's aggroed. It's still a neutral setting.
Hibiki's mindset is fine... it's just that we don't know if she ever experienced being discriminated for being the minority. It's easy for her to say things like "you're discriminating against us just because we're in the majority". It's along the lines of being 'privileged'. But objectively speaking (in the closest sense), there's no fault in her logic.
oh, and Makoto could also say things like 'Let's bring down the Goddess' because he has a chance.. but Hibiki does not
He already isn't. Aside from Makoto's own personal experience being discriminate by the goddess and the hyumans (for being fugly), close to all of his subordinates are demons, demi-humans or mamonos. As long as he can't see them fitting in on the current society, he will be against the "common sense" set in the world.
Exactly, that bug have been the problem. I wonder what would happen if Makoto knows how the bug treat his parents.
What do you mean? Bug treated his parents fine.
Gracias por el capítulo!!!
Esperando el siguiente~
Thanks for the chapter.
Thanks for the chapter!
Ah, I was thinking she was right for awhile, then she went an said demons are terroist......like what the F***
the minority are terrorist how donald trump of her, this pissed me off to no end, in the way she said, the African american people should have been slaves their entire lives, only to try and crawl up, but in the end failing, our history has already proved this idea does not work, the american civil war clearly showed that when lincon ended slavery we got a country spilt in two over this. Makoto idea is more right than hers but he believes in more I will first proceed then handle all the other matters later, we can worry that far bridge when we cross it. I agree with this stance more, if you don't get rid of the bug then she will always plant this thought in the children,
Also another thing when hyumans receive the blessing for the common language does she implant these thought or can she do it then no matter how hard she tries that thought process will never go away.
Hibiki is to naive as usual, Makoto is right in the moment, and i believe he will have another countermeasure for the future when it comes
I loled at the “how Donalt Trump odd her” XD
Remember that Hibiki use japanese/earth common sense. Are people in earth see ISIS as freedom fighter.? Nope, we see them as terrorists (i as muslims also see them as terrorists). She also think there's no point to keep useless war and want demon race to lay down their arms and seek negotional method (like Israel vs Palestine which will never happened) then after peace take place, she will amend the demon-demi hyuman-hyuman situation eventhough it will took years. She use that kind of common sense. She think what the best situation for that world as the world will be destroyed if goddess usurped/killed.
While Makoto, make his move by his emotion againts the goddess. He will reach out to those who seek help but he won't take hyumans side as he disgusted with them deep inside his heart.
bullshit.
ISIS is different from this case.
this are two countries/race fighting each other.
@Rei, I don't think using Muslim and Islamic terrorism as a reference for the demons is correct, since the Hyumans are the ones using their religion to oppress and wipe out the demons, while the demons are just trying to survive...
Unlike religious terrorism, fighting a war for survival should be more understandable to any race and this was all brought on by the fact that the goddess didn't like them.
Sadly though, the demons had already changed their objective to revenge, since it is what most of them wanted.
Makoto doesn't discrimate... between enemies that is. You show me hostility, you die. Hyuman, demon, or god.
Iron Man 2. If you could make God bleed, people would cease to believe in Him. There will be blood in the water, the sharks will come
I think both using/influenced by earth common sense. If you think a minority fighting againts majority and label them as terrorist, it's a common sense used by many people in earth (see what happened to Islam and muslims rifht now.? We all have been labeled as terrorist or extremist by many people). And Hibiki use that common sense. While Makoto use "reach your hand for those who seek help" but still "disgusted by the people in power/superiority" common sense.
I not saying i'm supporting Hibiki, i also think it's better to drag down that goddess and replace her with other god, but like Hibiki said, if the goddess vanished, there will be momentual chaos with the residents of that world before she(goddess) replaced with other gods
Soldiers killing soldiers are soldiers. People killing civilians to make a point are terrorists. At least that's what terrorists are to me. The way the demons used civilians against Hibiki during the invasion would make the terrorists. But this is a war for survival so it's a bit of a gray area. Those civilians would probably be happy to kill a helpless demon.
Muslims are not fighting for survival, hell, most Muslims are scared of the terrorists since they attack fellow Muslims that doesn't agree with them. Someone I know that joined ISIS did it so he can help enforce Islamic laws on the world and force people to convert to the right religion or die. They're like the Inquisitions. The way I see them, they're fighting for supremacy.
I think they're both right, given their capabilties.
Hibiki does not have the power to fight or replace Bug, so she has to find a way to live with her.
Makoto does have the power and he knows about other gods, so he has a better solution for the world: beat Bug down.
Well hold on. Hibiki seems in favor of keeping Bug, even after learning that Makoto brings the possibility of taking her down(he just wants to punish her, but she seems to think it's gotta be elimination).
Granted, she hasn't had enough time to let the option sink in, but it seems like her capability isn't the limitation here.
I am canadian thus I view her as wrong in my canadian common sense
no Hibiki does not use earth common sense, she has clearly said in this very chapter that you cannot use earth common sense in this world. Makoto is using earth common sense,
please check chapter again.
She is only mortal, she will not live for more than a 100 years, the goddess is eternal, she will still be around even after hibiki dies, spread her message about hyuman supremacy and she wins.
Makoto's method for taking down the goddess by force is right. He absolutely cannot use any other method.
"if god can bleed, then people will stop believing in him" (Forgot what movie)
Makoto has to show that the their supreme existence is sham, and then you can properly start affecting the hyumans, if they start seeing she is sham then it will reverse their thinking of them being the chosen race since their were chosen by a sham
In situations like this, the only difference between the word 'terrorist' and 'revolutionary' is who won.
Demons views it as war for survival, Hyumans views it as insurrection. There are misalignments of view here which will impede future discussions. Discounting religious views, it really feels like this war is pointless just looking at the numbers. The war has already gone on for ages and there are so many bad blood on both sides that its even difficult to just even build the bridge, and its not like the demons wants to (sari said something about zef like this before).
Also, while the situation is so messed-up because of the goddess and Makoto is probably right, on the ground and political level, it does not make sense to try to have peace discussion when you are clearly on positions of power even if you don't count religious views. Regardless of the intention or how you communicate it with others, it will be seen as clear sign of weakness by nobles and common people and will be ground for impeachment or insurrection. If there will be any peace discussion, the weaker side should be the one who started it and pretty sure Hibiki will help it succeed.
Yeah, the hyumans have the demons beat in numbers and individual strength, just as Hibiki said. And yet, the fact that they've fought as well as they have really calls into question who's weaker. If the heroes had never arrived, the war would probably be getting close to its finish soon, and the hyumans would not be the ones who were victorious.
or the hyuman just doesnt care to listen to them because they think they're far superior and demi-human and the demons are just slave to them
Yes, this is a revolution but it is not a revolution for political change, it is a revolution for the survival of the species, if the demons win then it will affect all demi-hyumans, and first of all we do not even know if the demons will enslave the hyumans after the war, all the demons want are a better place to live, better land, they are living in the cold winter barren
I am sure the demons have tried talking before, but with the goddess influence the hyumans did not listen to them
I don't know if the demons have tries talking before. They probably did, but at this point, more than a better place to live, they want to genocide the hymans. I remember this was mentioned some time ago by the demon loli whose name I forgot. Even if the goddess is gone and the hyumans are willingly to cease their discrimination, give them better land and treat them equally, I think the demons would still wave war against the hyumans to eradicate them
*tried
Damn autocorrect
and also the target , i think. since 'terrorist' nowadays mostly target civillian and not the fighting force
So Hibiki's basically Netanyahu, and the demons are Palestinians.
You can extend it toward most majority-minority conflict. Its really difficult to pick the best side on this kind of arguments since both sides have reasonable arguments. Makoto's stance is more of a revolutionaries since he got power to back it up and that kind of thing brings suffering to alot of people (check aftermath of French Revolution). His discrimination toward Hyumans is also abit like BLM reacting toward WLM i.e you are majority so suck it up, the important one currently is the suffering one (demi-humans and demons). Even though his action still more on the neutral, he himself do leans more toward demons and demi-humans (which is what Sari wants and the fruit of inviting raidou to demon's territory)
More like Japan and China during WW2 or slavery and following in the US.