“Kuzunoha company’s peddling permission?”
“Yeah, he has saved my and his Majesty’s life in Rotsgard. We called him here to give our gratitude, so doing nothing won’t do. Raidou made a petition himself, and it isn’t a subject that needs any heavy regulation, so I have given him a response geared towards accepting.” (Joshua)
“I see.”
“Is there some sort of problem? A number of nobles that want him to make a store will probably be unsatisfied with this decision, but it shouldn’t be disadvantageous for us.” (Joshua)
“Yes, I think Joshua-sama’s thinking is correct. If he wished for it, it should be appropriate as an expression of gratitude.”
“It makes me happy that Hibiki says so as well. But well, the fact that this is currently the only request of Raidou makes me feel troubled though. It would actually make me feel more at ease if he were to ask for land or a peerage.” (Joshua)
A conversation with Joshua and Hibiki.
The conversation was about the Kuzunoha Company.
The promise that Joshua made to Raidou about the permission for the peddling the Kuzunoha Company did on the territory.
The two were talking about that matter.
Bredda was also there, but as of now, he hasn’t joined the conversation.
“He probably thinks he has obtained plenty enough compensation.” (Hibiki)
“No way. To say it is plenty enough when he saved the king and prince of a major power, there shouldn’t be a person who thinks in that way.” (Joshua)
“…If it’s him, it is possible. He is that kind of person.” (Hibiki)
“It is certainly true that Raidou has an uhm…a kind way of thinking, that doesn’t fit a merchant. But even he should have some sort of avarice. I would also like to recompense him a bit more. It wouldn’t be good to leave strange lingering discomfort after all.” (Joshua)
“You wanted to say he has a naive way of thinking, right Joshua-sama? That’s actually right, you know.” (Hibiki)
“Even so, that’s not a word that should be directed towards someone that has saved my life, Hibiki.” (Joshua)
Hibiki restates the words of Joshua who chose his words.
Joshua rebukes her, but there was no stormy atmosphere between the two.
Bredda was silently drinking tea.
It was easy to see that this is an usual occurrence.
“What are Joshua-sama’s thoughts about how we should associate with them from now on?” (Hibiki)
The true meaning of Hibiki’s question was not to ask the opinion of Joshua’s personal opinion only, but to include the king’s stance, and the will of the nobles.
Joshua is the advisor of the king, and the number of people that think his opinion is the opinion of the king are not few.
“He himself is someone that doesn’t hold evil intentions. The strength they have as a company and the ability of its employees can become a threat depending on the sides it takes, but in basis, I think I want to build a favorable relationship. It is clear that it is not simple peddling, and in reality, the contribution Mio-dono achieved outside her schedule in the reconstruction was splendid. It seems like they have cooperated with the reconstruction of Rotsgard as well, but from what I see, they probably have done more of their part in the work than a simple cooperator. I was about to overlook that part in the report that I had gotten.” (Joshua)
“Rotsgard has already regained its former form and is advancing to a step further than that. It is saddening, but the speed to stand back up was clearly different from the capital. There’s no doubt the Kuzunoha Company played a big part in it. Just looking at their achievements, it is truly an appealing existence, but…” (Hibiki)
Anguish shows in Hibiki’s face.
“As I thought, there’s problems too huh. In my eyes, they look like partners that can become extremely beneficial though… Then, from Hibiki’s viewpoint, how does he look to you?” (Joshua)
“Right now it is hard to put it in clear words but…there’s a few points.” (Hibiki)
“I don’t mind. Let’s hear it.” (Joshua)
“First of all, he doesn’t have an interest in the war that’s currently occurring in the world. On top of that, even though he is the Head of a power that can be considered a nation, he doesn’t have any intentions to gain more than what he personally views. It is incredibly unstable, and engaging them carelessly is way too dangerous.” (Hibiki)
“Assuming that there are a number of other people that have the same power as Mio-dono in the Kuzunoha Company, and taking Raiou-dono’s power into consideration as well, then not only a mercenary group, they would possess a military force akin to a nation. I consider it is proper to think of them to be in a nation level. But what’s that about not being interested in the war? I don’t understand the part about being unstable either.” (Joshua)
“It means exactly as I have said. He has the notable characteristic that no matter how much the hyumans, demi-humans, and demons do war with each other, he won’t care. Also, he has no discrimination towards the demi-humans, and it is possible that if asked to provide accommodations because of troubles…they would most likely sell goods even to the demon race.” (Hibiki)
“No way! That’s an act of betrayal towards hyumans!”
Bredda speaks out for the first time.
While they are doing business in the hyuman country, they sell goods to the demon race.
Thinking about it from the common sense of Bredda -no, from the common sense of a hyuman, it is an inconceivable act.
“…Even to the demon race? He didn’t look like he had such a lack of integrity though.” (Joshua)
Joshua narrows his brows at the opinion of Hibiki.
Because in Joshua’s eyes, Raidou didn’t look like a person that would sell goods to the demon race for profit.
“…It is not that there’s no integrity in profit. In that sense, I actually think he is loose. The point of beingr troubled is what plays a big part.” (Hibiki)
“For example, no matter the cause, if there’s a demon race village that was unable to secure food supply in winter and there’s a request for help, they would help them out even if it is a situation where even payment is doubtful?” (Joshua)
“Yeah. Of course, even if there’s a request for help similar to that from hyumans or demi-humans, they would most likely reach the same decision. He is…kind, after all.” (Hibiki)
“As a result, the war would grow longer…and a great number of lives would be lost, bringing ruin to the world as a whole, and yet, he would still do it?” (Joshua)
“He is kind after all. If there’s someone in trouble, no matter if hyuman or demon, he would most likely save them. Demi-humans wounded by hyumans, hyumans that were wounded by demi-humans…without discrimination.” (Hibiki)
“…I see. It is certainly true that Raidou-dono gave that kind of feeling. The part that he would choose help over profit. If in his mind, hyumans and demons are equally worthy of saving, they will become an incredibly troublesome existence.” (Joshua)
“Yes. For hyumans and demons alike, they will become an exceedingly dangerous existence.” (Hibiki)
“It is so sudden it is hard to believe, but since it is something Hibiki says, it is worth considering. If they are contributing to the demon race in the same manner as with us, it would not be good. But…even if that’s truly the case, we still have no choice but to continue with our current way of interacting. I see, so this is what’s troubling you, Hibiki.” (Joshua)
Joshua continued his words as he thought about the methods that can be taken with the Kuzunoha Company, and then, he noticed the reason for Hibiki’s heavy expression.
“…Yes. We have no choice but to have a favorable relationship with them. If they are an existence that brings benefits to both sides, we have to get involved with them as well.” (Hibiki)
The expression of Hibiki was still bitter, and it was comprehensible.
If it’s an existence that they can expect benefits in being involved with, even if they bring benefits to the enemy as well, they have no choice but to be involved with them as well.
Even if they are dangerous, as long as they don’t have a clear countermeasure for them, they won’t be able to break the deadlock, so they have to continue with how their relationship currently is.
“Fufufu, right. There’s no reason for us to throw away that benefit ourselves. And in truth, in this time’s visit, we have utilized them plenty after all. And yet, they are being taken as a threat. It is truly a misfortune.” (Joshua)
Joshua laughs in a self-depreciating manner.
The visit of the Kuzunoha Company has several objectives they have not been told about.
Thinking about that, a smile unconsciously came out.
“I will try to convince him at least. If…he were to side with us, it would solve most of the problems without doubt after all.” (Hibiki)
“It is written all over your face that you don’t think it will go well.” (Joshua)
“Honestly speaking, I don’t have the confidence. His sense of worth is already a lot more different than mine. I don’t know if we will be able to reach an understanding.” (Hibiki)
“I pray for your success. I want to continue having a good relationship with him after all.” (Joshua)
“Regarding that, I heartfeltly agree as well. It is someone I definitely wouldn’t want to be in trouble with after all.” (Hibiki)
“Someone you definitely don’t want to be in trouble with huh. Well, fine then. Regarding Raidou, I will leave the decision making to you. Well then Hibiki, you won’t mind if I advance things just as we have discussed, right?” (Joshua)
“Yes. I was meddled a bit by Mio-san, but there won’t be any problems. Let’s continue with it in one go.” (Hibiki)
“Understood.” (Joshua)
The talk finished, and Hibiki stands from her seat.
Joshua also stood up a second later, and sees her off.
Bredda was about to leave the room following Hibiki as if natural, but at that moment, he was called from behind.
“Bredda, there’s something I have to talk with you about.”
“Hah?” (Bredda)
Being in a different pattern from normal, Bredda let out a dumbfounded voice.
There have been times when Bredda has been in presence of the conversation between Hibiki and Joshua, but there’s never been something after that.
He was with the thoughts of only accompanying Hibiki, so it is an expected reaction.
“Ara, then I will be going ahead.” (Hibiki)
Hibiki didn’t show any special surprise and leaves promptly.
“Wai–, Hibiki?!” (Bredda)
The door was ruthlessly closed.
“…Seriously, what do you want, Joshua?” (Bredda)
Because Hibiki was now gone, Bredda returns to his sibling way of speaking and takes seat in a slightly violent manner.
He asks for Joshua’s business.
“Brother, I have established several occasions for this kind of meetings, but you haven’t participated in any of them properly, right?” (Joshua)
“I am present only as a knight and a bodyguard of Hibiki. In the first place, I am not in a position to say my opinion.” (Bredda)
“Because there was the will of the king as well, I have given tacit consent to brother’s attitude until now, but with the capital in this state, I can’t just leave it as always.” (Joshua)
“…Listen here Joshua…” (Bredda)
“Isn’t it time to be thinking about the ruling of the country? Not as a knight, nor a party member of Hibiki’s, but as the successor of father.” (Joshua)
“…You are talking about that? I have decided to be the shield of Hibiki as a knight. If it’s about the throne, you succeed it. If it’s Joshua, there’s no one who would be against it.” (Bredda)
“I don’t have the gift to be a ruler. In this time of war, the role of the king is to encourage the whole country, and the one who is the most fit for that role of being the king of Limia is you, brother. In the first place, I have already abandoned the succession of the throne.” (Joshua)
“It is just fine to say you want it back. In the first place, me being the decoration and you being the counsellor is not that different from you being the one directly doing things. I refuse being a simple decoration hanging.” (Bredda)
“Abandoning the succession of the throne is not something as simple as that you know. Also, if you are able to fulfill the role of a decoration, then in a sense, it can be considered a talent for being king.” (Joshua)
“But I have been telling you haven’t I? I want to be of use to Hibiki—” (Bredda)
“If you think that way, why can’t you understand that being the next king is the best move?!” (Joshua)
Bredda tried to finish the conversation in the same note, but today was different in all senses.
Interrupting his words, Joshua shouted.
At the same time, Joshua hits the table and a loud sound reverberated in the place.
“…What did you say?” (Bredda)
“Looking at the current Hibiki, you should be able to tell. She is already in a territory that a normal person can’t catch up to. That’s right…there’s already no way for brother to become the shield of Hibiki! When in the party, the most you can do is guard the priestess and Wudi, right?!” (Joshua)
Watching the mock battle of Raidou, Joshua was able to understand plenty enough that Hibiki’s strength had already surpassed the line of normal.
She clearly had a strength that went a different path from that of a strong adventurer.
The same could be said for Raidou, but it was evident that it was a different dimension from the trained strength of Bredda.
“Joshua, you…what are you trying to…” (Bredda)
“Brother will definitely become shackles for Hibiki in time, that’s what I am trying to say. Before turning into that, I am advising you to help her out in politics! Let me tell you this, you are only a prodigy by birth. Because of the king’s lineage.” (Joshua)
“Shut up!!” (Bredda)
“For example, the three of Kuzunoha Company, no matter which one of those three brother fights, you wouldn’t be able to defeat any. But if you move as the king of Limia, brother will have plenty enough power to become the strength of Hibiki.” (Joshua)
“I’m telling you to shut up!!” (Bredda)
“This is father’s will!” (Joshua)
“?!!”
“…It’s not that I think this way. If the capital gets attacked again, is there an assurance that the king will be safe? If he were to fall in this state where we still haven’t announced the next successor… We can’t have the current Limia fight over who will be the next successor. Something like that, even brother understands, right? Father is thinking about announcing brother as the next successor. Things like reading the heart of your own father, you should at least be able to do that without having me telling you, brother!” (Joshua)
“I can still do it. I will become stronger and support Hibiki.” (Bredda)
“I know that brother is someone that doesn’t slack in his efforts, but not only Hibiki; the priestess, Wudi, and also Naval; everyone possesses outstanding talent. It isn’t something that one can keep up with just hard work. Fortunately, brother’s defensive sword style can become a help in moments of need. Please take heed of my words.” (Joshua)
“Then what will they do about my substitute?! Yeah, it is certainly true that my strength is lacking, but is there any other person that’s able to support the current Hibiki at her side? Before talking about being me being the king, shouldn’t you first find that person?” (Bredda)
“…There is.” (Joshua)
“What?” (Bredda)
“I said there is one. We will be meeting that person after the Kuzunoha Company leaves though.” (Joshua)
Heartless words came from Joshua.
Bredda was at a loss for words, and was dumbfounded by the unyielding attitude of his little brother he had never seen before.
◇◆◇◆◇◆◇◆
Night
Finishing my plans of the day, I had returned to my room and was passing a leisure time with Lime.
He was doing maintenance to his katana that had finished recovering, in a good mood while talking about the state of the land near the castle.
“As expected, they are still far from being finished in the reconstruction.” (Makoto)
“Right. There’s also the point that Rotsgard is just way too fast though. Mio-neesan showed several things, so there’s probably going to be a request for help from the prince or maybe someone else.” (Lime)
“If it’s about helping with the reconstruction, I don’t mind helping in a permissible level though. It would definitely be a lot easier for the people that come from Rotsgard if the groundwork has been done after all.” (Makoto)
“It would be great if that much is enough though.” (Lime)
“That’s the most we can do. No matter the case, if the war intensifies once more…” (Makoto)
“The demon race huh. I don’t think they will match the conveniency of hyumans and not attack in winter, but…I wonder what they are planning. If it were me, I would immediately come to crush the weakened Limia though.” (Lime)
For the demon race, winter is a season that’s easy for them to defend in.
For hyumans, it is hard to attack.
But just as Lime says, it doesn’t mean the demons will have a hard time attacking too.
This is something that I can say with confidence after meeting them; the Demon Lord is not the type that would loosen in the offensive.
He is a person that would attack with no hesitation.
In other words, there’s a reason why he is not going for the attack.
In that case, this time where they are waiting for spring and the time they are doing their best in the reconstruction is actually a vital time for the hyumans.
Because it means that the demons are preparing a hand that is bigger than attacking the current Limia after all.
“Right. Well, when the time comes, I will move as well, so it won’t turn into the worst scenario.” (Makoto)
“Boss will move? You didn’t seem to have much interest in the war though.” (Lime)
“Hm? I don’t have any interest in the war, I also have no intentions in participating. Just that, I don’t think the demon race has much intentions of meddling with merchants and adventurers that much, so no matter what happens with the hegemony of society, I don’t think much would change in our everyday life.” (Makoto)
“…Getting along with the demon race is kind of a…complicated feeling. Then what do you mean by moving?” (Lime)
“Meaning that I will try to save Senpai at least. I don’t know about this country though.” (Makoto)
“…That’s just like Boss-ssu. Hm? Someone’s coming. This is…Hibiki-ssu ne. This late in the night, that’s rare. (Lime)
“Senpai? If she has any business, it would be with me huh.” (Makoto)
“Most likely. Well, even if Boss and Hibiki pass a night together, nothing will be happening, so it is most likely not going to end in seduction.” (Lime)
“Oh, sharp words there. Leaving aside me, from what I know, Senpai is quite popular you know?” (Makoto)
“…Well, she pretends as if she knows how to deal with men. She is the same as Boss, so she won’t be able to do those kind of things.” (Lime)
“The same as me?” (Makoto)
“Hehe, just ignore this delirious talk of a man that has travelled along with her.” (Lime)
What is he talking about?
The points that Senpai and I have in common are pretty few, you know.
After a bit, knocking comes from the door.
“Yes?”
“It is Hibiki. Do you have a bit of time?” (Hibiki)
“Come in.” (Makoto)
Just like what Lime said, it was Senpai.
“…So Lime was here too. Can you please…no, Raidou-dono, can you accompany me for a bit? It might take a while though.” (Hibiki)
Is it something that she doesn’t want to talk about in this room?
At the very least, it doesn’t seem to be something related to the priestess-san.
I don’t think we will be visiting her at this late of an hour after all.
“It is okay. Then Lime, I will be leaving for a bit. It is okay to go rest before me.” (Makoto)
“Okay. I will do that.” (Lime)
Lime lowers his head.
His mouth was smiling, but his eyes weren’t smiling much.
Maybe because Tomoe or someone of that line has asked him to be cautious of her?
But even if he is going to eavesdrop, there’s nothing that would trouble me if he heard, so I will just let him do whatever he wants.
“Then, let’s go.”
“Yes.”
Senpai is trying to feign it as always, but I could tell from her body that she was tense.
Just like when we talked about the priestess, I don’t think this will be a comfortable talk.
Because of the recall ritual, it has become a pretty good development for me in Limia though.
Waterfall seemed to be the sober type of dragon, but she opened the library and brought us back, so she is quite the open-hearted fellow.
I have also received the peddling permission for the Forest Oni’s unit, and as long as we are able to return without anything happening, it would be great.
But it won’t go so smoothly huh.
Ah, right.
It depends on the talk with Senpai, but maybe I should try talking with her about the recall ritual.
I think that information about returning home is important.
Yeah, that’s not bad.
The back of Senpai made a silence flow through us, and that provided me time to arrange my thoughts.
In time, Senpai’s legs stop and turns towards me.
Senpai and I were in a part of the castle, at a corridor where we could easily see all the land around the castle.
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It's probably Lime, huh. If Hibiki asks this of Makoto personally, there's a high chance he'd approve since he doesn't think much after all. By "think" I mean plan. All the schemes and planning ends up to his subordinates, and if he doesn't consult Tomoe, he'd easily give up Lime with a condition of keeping Asora with utmost secrecy. Since Makoto's mindset is geared towards protecting his Senpai.
If not Lime, then maybe Toa or maybe even a united front... Hibiki and Tomoki(in a quest to obtain his Tomoe). Or maybe wrong again. Welp.
Cheers for the chapter~
i think joshua will bring tomoki. because no matter what lime or misura decide, kuzunoha will know. but Toa is a possibility too though
still searching for the Ritual Knife of her clan ? that moment when you non-stop farming to find the rare drop and RNG-sama still not fkin drop the item
Well you should know that Toa is actually in the wasteland for a reason and they would be no point of secrecy if it's Misura and Trashmoki would rather spit on a dead granny than join forces since he's tryna settle a debt. Given all that it is definitely someone they trust about their background so maybe goddess side or who knows. Damn you author!!!! Ahem sorry author-chan?
To be honest, it's probably not too bad an idea to leave Lime as sort of a contact between Kuzunoha and Hibiki's party, especially if Makoto plans to keep saving her if she ever gets into trouble.
The main risk is Hibiki's charisma, but I'm sure there's countermeasures for it.
.....Regular, Shiki and Tomoe countermeasures, by the way. Not Mio's sort of countermeasure.
Woah calm down I would rather grab a hot knife with my bare hands than click the mouse towards the raws of this Ln. Just wanted to see spoiler-san come out :)
Spolier said lime leaves limia and it isn't toa :).
F*ck your spoilers.
Unless Hibiki gains mind powers like Tomoe, then blockading the memories concerning Asora and other crucial infos they don't want leaking out of Lime it would probably suffice in addition, Shiki would probably pitch in with a failsafe. If those are still not enough... then Lime will be the next ingredient of Mio's dish.
Lolx, nice one at the end.
Anw, i dun think it is Lime.
Coz thry did mention AFTER Kuzunoha left.
Maybe Misuzu
thanks for the chapter reigokai-sensei...
not much to say but wow, now i know what they mean dangerous a reason is they will make the war giong to prolong because the kindness they make... hope that my opinion goes wrong XD
i always cek this novel, couse i really waiting for surprise update... pardon me sensei translator
Thanks for the chapter. If Hibiki did not say that Makoto was kind person it might have ended up as Makoto was helping both side in order to make a huge profit from the war.
This!
After that sentence I was like
"awww so you did view him as kind afterall"
Then she add yeah they will be dangerous existence for hyuman and demon race alike
I was like ...
"what..."
"Seriously ?"
"What..."
I guess that just showing how petty our mind is, you just cannot trust kind people, if they want the war to be short then please have overwhelming power first, if you hate war please don't push others into the edge of the world, try living there for once and you will understand why they mad at you.
Damn selfish human.
apparently peace treaty and cease fire agreement is impossible in this world
Damn cliffhanger
Thanks a lot for the chap, can't wait for friday, well because it's friday!!!
NO!!, the chapter ... so short, my heart ... hurts ... my abstinence ........ Arghhh!!!
(Thanks to chapter !!!!)
To be honest, I kinda like the more modest-sized chapters like these. Firstly, Reigokai can pop them out faster, and secondly, it's easier to digest in the comments.
You can think of it this way. Longer chapter provides more closure. Short chapter faster read while leaving it slightly open.
Those who read books won't mind or might like longer chapters. It can be more fulfilling than reading a short chapter leaving you hanging.
That's a serious case of addiction, my friend.
Pssh. That's not so bad.
No joke, I once had a dream that played out speculated events of the next chapter, which changed before my eyes whenever I realized something was out of character or didn't make sense.
I think it was pretty early on too. Chapter 50s or so.
I don't mind the size....
the cliffhanger is another story.....
Oh no.... the seizure has started.... h..hel..p...
thanks for the chapter
Holy shit, Makoto knows everything already, then why.....really why....I mean he heard all of the conversation of waterfall and thought whatev's
that last few sentences basically blew my mind
Makoto is truly awesome he figured out everything and is nonchantly gonna talk to her about
wait is that a power Sakai, he can use it to hear the conversation of other people
they were chatting cheerfully inside his sakai range after all (he spreaded up it to check the space spell of waterfall)
And he's bwing poisoned already with the recalling ritual, and of course there will be many who will be angered by this in a form of removing Makoto in this bug world. And why the hell would Makoto still try to save HiBItchKi, who's now turning into a damn f*ker
the promise is 'to take care as not let the heroes die easily' it doesnt include the people in that world, heck even if he destroy those hopeless its nothing to care about unless the hero attack him, he can just immobilize them with his power
He promised to tsukuyomi to take care of the heroes
That Hibiki and Joshua.... what s(he) planning....
It's better not something like "hopelace hospitality" all over again, Mio has stated it clearly, no matter who did it, Limia kingdom are Limia kingdom, it won't make any difference where she decides to put her wrath.
@ken, Makoto doesn't know what Wfall and Hibiki talked about. I suggest reading that part again for clarity. He knew about the ritual because that was what ia in yhe library. The books he got was about the recall.
Oh, so we now have a new method to extract the souls of the Fae. Making them insane by slowly taking their mind away, thus lowering their resistance. This then leads to making it easier to extract the soul since it doesn't have the mind to defend it anymore.
We're gonna have a feast!
What? No. This isn't a mind extracting method, it's just a mind.
I was just gonna install it in a golem so that it can perform mana flow calculations in my place...
A Fae got too strong a while back and broke out because I got distracted by Mio goodness. I...had to move my test site after that.
...And I lost all the profits I'd accumulated in the bribes to cover things up. ;-;
Well, that's a shame. If you want, I can lend you some familiars who are quite good at combat until everything is in order again at your place.
That's fine. The issue isn't with security so much as management. Hence, the mana-regulating mind.
...Hmm. I wonder if I could create an anti-fae that eats any that get too large... *Mad science mutterings*
oh really then I want my mind back
Well you can't have it! It's mine now!
Ooo. Can I get a bit of that? I could probably use that in my Fae Soul -racket.- A legitimate business.
Sure thing.
ho on, i t'nac klat tuohtiw ym dnim
sA gnol sa ew nac etacinummoc, s'ereht on melborp.
i wonk tub ot klat ekil siht si driew, i t'nod tnaw ti
toN sa driew sa rehto syaw.
Sedi ygrl.
☻╔ ┼↔╪▼.
01001111 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00101110
7hI5 I5 0K4Y 7H0U9h.
If I'm not mistaken, that's an order to start an eldritch army invasion. That, or you're ordering pizza. It could go either way. Oh, if it's pizza, can you get elf bacon and fae hamburger? I love that!
Come now. It's not that hard to decipher.
It's just a normal reply.
In three different dialects of insanity. Or oversanity. Jury's still out on my qualifications.
Muahahahaha!😈
I think the assumption is less that Makoto overheard them and more that he found the Recall ritual Waterfall talked about and plans to share that information with Hibiki, being the good guy that he is.
He probably doesn't realize that both heroes actually like it here. Well, maybe Tomoki.
i want my mind back
Makoto didn't realize Waterfall's subterfuge and is only interested in somehow realizing the recall spell. He felt that Waterfall was much more laid back than the other superior dragons and opened the library to him. No statement was made that he knows anything about what Waterfall asked of Hibiki.
In fact, I believe Waterfall specifically tells HIbiki that she was giving Makoto a book about Recall, because she wanted to get Makoto interested in it.
@kenkyokisshouinreika
remember, it is a library, therefore there is a possibility, once again, a possibility, that some information about the recall was placed within the library which Makoto read.
I think this is all that @zerotaku81 was implying, that considering it is Makoto it would be best to assume that, rather than think he actually eavesdropped.
Ok... some points.
1. He not actually "heard" the ritual, he read it in waterfall library. And because of that he feels really grateful towards waterfall.
2. Makoto is Makoto.... a typical polite japanese boy, he is not being nice on purpose, he is nice by habit.
He is actually the one who didn't really change that much in personality compared to two heroes, sure he grews on power, sure he is apathetic towards life, but who can say he didn't feels like that in our earth ? The author purposely leave that part blank.
yes that it, makoto didn't know about conversation between that 2 girl......... maybe, just hoping
no he clearly knows all of that stuff, if he heard about the ritual then he heard everything else, and now that I think about why would he trust a superior dragon other tomoe, he does not trust Root or Grount, so he already had countermeasures if he did get stick in that place, that is why he said Waterfall was nice enough to let us out......Mind Blown(mine)
Makoto did not heard about the ritual, Waterfall purposely handed him a book about the recalling ritual and let him go to her library to read more about it.
well its Makoto nature, he just dont want to think it deeply
Bredda's subtitute ? Who is it ? Is it waterfall ?.
Oh good. Tomoe will kick her/his ass...
Waterfall = female
Sandwave = female
Invincible = female
Nightclad = male
Crimsonlight = male
Lancer = male
Myriadcolors = ???
lol, just felt like listing them XD
The answer's Hideyoshi
Whats hideyoshi? I heard it a lot... but i dont know anything about it
Hideyoshi is a character from Baka to Test. He's the ultimate trap. It's so unclear what his gender is that everyone's just decided that he's neither, and is a "Hideyoshi".
Oh yeah... I remember that guy... he made the mc and the photo guy nosebleed a lot...
@piklicave
To add more to the Hideyoshi, there is one episode where Hideyoshi is an established gender - something which cannot be determined and everyone has a problem with. Some people see him for his actual gender, a male, and thus recommend he uses the male changing room and male bathhouse area, where a multitude of boys then object saying he should go to the girl bathouse side, and use the girl changing area, as he is obviously a boy. This leads Hideyoshi to such a poor state of affairs he is effectively deadlocked from making any action whatsoever. Some Yandere women also despise him for that fact and forbid him from bathing with the one they are interested in.
Thus the brunt of the comment comes from the fact that there are so many opinions of him, regardless of what he actually is, that it is better to reclassify him as something entirely different to such save everybody the trouble, even at the expense of buying entirely new material to construct an entirely new bath house area just for one person.
See where the joke comes in?
Ah... I see... I guess I better rewatch the two seasons of that anime then... after all my tests are done... so I got two things that I absolutely have to do, read hp lovecraft, and research baka to test... next year are going to be hectic...
Yep. For some reason, I thought he was from that abomination, Boku no Pico for a moment. *shudders*
God please no... to be honest... boku no piko's gendbend mc is pretty cute, but the way they deliver his character is... ugh... how can I say this without offending anyone... hm... I give up! Can't find the word...
Back when I was really getting into anime, my friends tricked me into watching some of it. I hope they go to hell for that. 👿There are just some things that should never be seen, and things that can never be unseen.😨
True... true... there are some shit that would love to forget as well, like... ah shit... I remembered it...
I don't think Root qualifies as a Hideyoshi though. In fact, they might as well be opposites in the same way male and female are.
A Hideyoshi means you're confused about whether it's okay to feel....something and it's a big question mark.
A Root has given a pretty definitive "pervert" feeling to us so far. It's fine to designate him as a "both", actually.
By the way, there's also a third type where the gender is explicitly neither.
I'm still working on classifying the gender of a person that varies by alternate universe or timeline, but it's kind of a pain...especially if one of those varied genders don't qualify for male, female, Hideyoshi, OR Root.
@Psychronia
Then why not add the new gender Root to the equation. I don't know exactly how far you have come with your progress with it - and honestly I don't really care that much, too much of a pain (this is coming from a game designer, mind you). Thus the spectrum is:
Male,
Female,
Hideyoshi,
and a Root.
It is then male,
female,
neither,
both.
Does that make things a little easier then?
I've heard of that actually. It's not too far fetched, considering one of the premises of string theory is that the making of a choice creates multiple different universes, and the genetics that dictate sex and appearance are random as it gets. Although I can't imagine why anyone would classify genders for that. Even if the base genetic material is the same, the subjects in question would be two different people, so there shouldn't be any need to create some classification for their gender. Abyss, I can't believe I'm actually putting serious thought into this. What in the name of the Concordenax am I even talking about?
@coatl45,
I actually prefer talks like these, even if they are in a comment section.
In any case. You do know there are many other theories as well?
One written by a very little known person I know is one in which she states that, if humans, and thus any other animal, makes a decision based on only two factors: emotions and knowledge, it is then essentially impossible for a multitude of different parallel universes to exist, but that then begs the question, how could they build a quantum computer? This then leads her to believe that the only way for any organism in that point in time to make a different decision is to have the world itself them be created differently. This then leads her to further conclude that if the soul does exist, then you could see it as some sort of circuit that exists outside of the cosmos - the infinite grouping of multiple parallel universes - in which it is effectively connected to all different parallel universes, but only a fraction is used by every single organism.
Taking this assumption into consideration then means that we are all, in fact, a Root.
Weird, isn't it?
Also, why do humans want to generalize so much? I think it best to stop at generalizing up to the point where it doesn't affect you anymore, for example, one world. Any further and it becomes too tedious to actually use the theories and terms you create. Yeah sure it is interesting to have, but you should also understand that things just aren't always that convenient.
About making decisions, only in extreme situations are there only two choices. That's why crossroads and forks are so popular when depicting the making of choices. After all, choosing to do nothing or turning back is a choice as well. But taking the theory that everyone knows to the extreme, every little choice a person makes creates at least two universes (I.e. which tie do I wear to work, red or yellow?), that choice triggers another event (the boss noticing the yellow tie, but not the red) which leads to another choice or random chance that makes more universes. I wasn't saying that one choice could make a hundred universes, but a day of choices and random events could easily create a thousand.
Now that soul theory is very intriguing. If I understand that right, then a single person's soul (and I do believe in the existence of souls, I'm not sure why, but I do) is connected to every concurrent iteration of said person across the multitude of timelines within the multiverse, correct? This is very interesting. Perhaps the consciousness is the fraction of soul that's present, while the subconscious is the connecting point to the greater mass that is the soul. This is a fascinating theory.
@coatl45
I agree, that is one of the reasons I have a copy of her work. If anything her work is interesting.
Let us just use her theory of souls as an example. That then means that gods are one two things - the gods we know - beings that are still like us but have more things on which they can exercise their will on, or beings which have accumulated part of their soul from other iterations
The latter actually sounds similar to the Buddha. A being that accumulates the parts of their soul of all their iterations, and in doing so realizes the truth of the universe (or multiverse if you will) there by achieving 'enlightenment' and gaining the power of the divine as well as transcending from the multiverse. This occurrence, of course, would be the rarest phenomenon that could occur. It couldn't even happen if you had luck that could pull a one in ten trillion lotto. I can't even imagine what it would take for such a phenomenon to happen.
@coatl45
In response to your Buddha theory, I am not entirely sure of that as I don't really know that much about it. However, I know her theory doesn't really include those possibilities.
However, were we to think and extrapolate a bit, we can get it to a rough estimate. However, it is much smaller than even a trillion. First we need some events which might spur on this change, or else the possibility remains at zero. Thus we first need a catalyst for that to happen.
Y'know, it just struck me that we might be going into some dangerous territory with this. I mean, my first thought after reading this comment was "What would this catalyst needed be, and how would it be used?" Even if it's just wondering what would be needed, that would indicate the willingness to experiment with this catalyst if it was found. To experiment with something that might create a god-like being...does that make me a bad person? Or is it the fact that I'm not certain I would refuse the chance to perform the experiment, that would make me a bad person?
I don't think it's strange at all to consider the idea of causing a catalyst for this. Firstly, it's fascinating stuff. Secondly, isn't something like "creating an event that causes a soul to evolve into a higher existence" such a worthwhile concept? In fact, I wouldn't be able to actually do it, but assuming we live in a timeline that's just one of the infinite universes, and all our souls are connected with all the other versions of ourselves, then it seems like an objectively profiting trade to sacrifice an entire universe of just a single timeline (since we have infinite of them) to push just a single soul into apotheosis(which under this theory is an absurdly rare and special event).
The reason you're uncomfortable is probably because you're putting more effort than most people are too afraid to into conceptualizing an ethically gray idea.
I'm distinctly reminded of a certain content creator's exploration of a Cult Tycoon game. He gave so many logical pointers (you don't bribe FBI, you spend that money on lawyers, instant conversion isn't realistic and it'd be better to have to pick out recruits with "high compatibility", etc) that the comments were 90% talking about how he was a little TOO good at running a cult.
@coatl45
That is a very suggestive question, but one I would be glad to answer.
It all depends on you actually, in many of the cases. Let us go back quite a bit and assume that there are two main cases. The first case states that there is a god. The second case iterates that there is no god.
In the case that there is a god, you will inherently be evil if you try to become a god, whether the second case's logic applied or not, as those who are gods are those who determine what is right and what is wrong.
In the second case, you being bad as a person entirely depends on you. If you think about it, scientists have concluded that our innate sense of good and evil is merely what we have established is good for a good pack. Thus morals and rules are essentially just that which will help make us a good pack and live successfully. IF you think any further it means that "all things are allowed and nothing is forbidden" to quote, albeit slightly incorrectly, Assassin's Creed. Thus it depends entirely on your reasoning. Thus, if you abide by the morals and you then create a god-like being, yes. You are a bad person, considering how much trouble you will have to go through, how many of your rules and morals you will destroy in the process. If you do not follow such rules, well, then you are not classified as a bad person, since there is nothing which binds you to the species which formed you.
Whether society will view you as bad... That is an entirely different question, and one which is entirely dependent on the result. There will always be people who are against you and always be people who are with you. Thus in the beginning you will be both good and evil/bad. Which is not much of a difference from your current status as a human being any way.
Later on, if you were to create a god-like being, your issue about being bad or not is entirely dependent on his/her actions. If they decide to destroy humanity or act like a tyrant, you will forever go down in history as the mother of all bad guys - you and your colleagues. If he is good, in in the history books you will be revered as a genius and a saint, perhaps even an apostle, which then makes you good.
This all in all just relates back to my first assessment. The answer is highly suggestive, but is dependent on your point of view the most.
Fufufu...Let's just say I have a reason for needing to be able to classify the genders of people who are multiple alternate entities.
To be honest, I've been trying to wrap my head around a lot of multiverse theory stuff and it's getting annoying.
For example, what units of measurement would you use to define a finite area within the infinite branches of the multiverse? One is most likely time but what's the other? Number of timelines? But they're infinite even on a small scale! Gaaaaah! XO
Be careful, you might fry your brain thinking about that stuff. I get the same way when I think about time travel.
so, root is an Attack Helicopter? quite fiting
Oh, i didnt read 'she openend library' , ahaha. thanks for info
@gatekeeper,
Yeah, root is an other, as per Makoto, she is more easily classified though, but for this I have to avoid truck-san, so I will stay away.
I take it @gatekeeper, you are a person not from Europe or the USA? I ask because, in my third world country, we are still struggling to even get to that point so I honestly don't know what is wrong with assuming genders, I mean, we are merely A.I. with organic percepts which are used for indications. So we naturally must assume a great many things.
Anyhoo. Yeah, can anybody inform me about the great threat of gender assumptions?
@Garred nah, rather than in public, I mostly encounter it on the net...
... and I'm regretting bringing up that nonsense in this community... sorry
why can't we edit our comments? XD
What is done, is done, my friend. Don't worry about it too much.
I was honest though, in my enquiry, but for now, I'll leave it aside. it was merely curiosity.
*two
Gender is like the twin tower there used to be too but now its a sensitive issue.
oops.. welp, better than assuming genders (apparently that's a landmine nowadays...
I'm pretty sure Myriad Colors counts as "Other".
Most likely Misura. one of makoto's stundents.
Sthap... don't push my comment even lower.....
Thanks for the chapter
No no no no.... don't stop there.... the story... push it a little....
Dammitt... this gonna spell another seizure from cliffhanger
What is with this erotic (kinda) comment!?
arigatou~